Where are the Morals?

[Whateverist]

[Jacob(smooth)]

Is not incest or to torcher a baby reckon as absolute immoral? If so then from where that sense of absoluteness comes from?

I think so. As a Christian however, you should be fine with them. Both of those things appear to be fine by Yahweh. He's fine with can marrying his sister, lot banging his daughters, Abraham marrying his niece etc. And the bible tells us that Yahweh used to be a bloodthirsty c**t who told his followers to rip babies out of mothers and dash them against rocks.

So those are really quite bad examples

[paulpablo]

So what kind of punishment you prefer for someone if he has sexual relations with your wife? How will you treat your wife if you learn she is in sexual affairs with another man behind your back? What are your suggestions to stop sexual abuses in a society?

I hope I am not upsetting you by giving such intimidating questions!

I don't have a wife so I don't know how to answer the question, I'd say that for people who are married and have affairs there's no solution in anyone facing violent punishment for having an affair.
I definitely think that throwing rocks at someone until they die as a punishment for anything sexual between to consenting adults is a bad idea.

I don't have any suggestions on how to stop sexual abuses in society.

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You love to twist and distort, quote out of context, and misquote simply to build up a false impression. I preserve my response until my new post in which I am planning to discuss on the tricks and tactics of selfish beings.

My only comment for now is I 100% favour all those punishments that you have presented as barbaric by concealing some real facts.

I do not think that your love and compassion for your wife will increase drastically if (God forbid) you learn that she is sharing bed with your friends.

No, I haven't presented them as being barbaric, I've presented them as they are in the quran and how they are implemented in sharia law, amputation of thieves hands, men beating women if they fear rebellion from a wife, 100 lashes for people who have sex outside the laws of islam.

[Endo]

Yeah, incest isn't exactly a moral absolute, either.

First off, look Adam and Eve's offspring. They probably did some incestey things in order to get the human race to exist. But, you'll probably pull some shit out of your ass and say that they were more genetically pure than people today or something completely stupid. Assuming, of course, that you take the A&E creation story as the story of creation.

Then there's ALL THE OTHER TIMES God told someone to fuck a family member. I'll let you find those for yourself.

So, by your own religion-based "morals", even your ABSOLUTES aren't so ABSOLUTE.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Funny how the concept and feelings of empathy are not explored in the OP.

Because the OP has neither.

[LostLocke]

Let us do a simple math:

Case one:
If you mean that atheist prisoners are only 1% of total prison population than according to above mentioned statistics:

Atheist = 2.01% of the total world population

Total world population = 7 billion

2.01% Atheist population = 140,700,000

1% atheist prisoners of total world population = 70,000,000

Above calculation shows, 50.2% atheists of total atheist population are spending their lives in prisons.

That "math" is so backasswards it's not even funny.

If you want to "do a simple math" here's how you do it:

Take the total prison population.
Multiply that by 1%.
There's the atheist inmate population.

Jesus H Christ, did you get past 3rd grade math class?

[FatAndFaithless]

Let us do a simple math:

Case one:
If you mean that atheist prisoners are only 1% of total prison population than according to above mentioned statistics:

Atheist = 2.01% of the total world population

Total world population = 7 billion

2.01% Atheist population = 140,700,000

1% atheist prisoners of total world population = 70,000,000

Above calculation shows, 50.2% atheists of total atheist population are spending their lives in prisons.

That "math" is so backasswards it's not even funny.

If you want to "do a simple math" here's how you do it:

Take the total prison population.
Multiply that by 1%.
There's the atheist inmate population.

Jesus H Christ, did you get past 3rd grade math class?

No..I didn't... Don't rub it in..

[Tonus]

Is not incest or to torcher a baby reckon as absolute immoral?

See if you can get your money refunded for that ESL class.

[LostLocke]

No..I didn't... Don't rub it in..

Too late.
I'm going to rub it in.
I'm going to rub it till it's sore and tender....

Wait, this is going in a direction I never intended...

[Whateverist]

Islam is a religion based on logic. Therefore, all its laws are logical.

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Wait, not done.



Go on. Tell another one.

You have no idea how much soil I had to shift to extricate this one gem.

To paraphrase Harris: since Islam aspires to be a religion of logic, it therefore follows that all of its attempts succeed.