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Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 3:18 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2014 at 3:19 am by mralstoner.)
David Wood (yes he is a Christian, don't have a heart attack) covers the key verses that define women in Islam (hint: it's not good).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csl0gxWnyzs
Quote:Safiyah, the Jewish Wife of Muhammad
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/safiyah.htm
By Ali Sina
The following is the story of Safiyah Bint Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab, the Jewish woman who was captured when Muhammad’s troops attacked Kheibar and brought her to the Prophet as part of his share of the booty. Muhammad ordered Kinana, the young husband of Safia to be tortured to death to make him reveal the whereabouts of the treasure of the town. On the very nigh of that murder, he took Safia to his bed and claimed that young girl as his trophy. This story is reported by Tabari in detail. It can also be found in Sira of Ibn Ishaq. The following is reported in the Book of Tabaqat compiled by Ibn Sa'd and is published in the Islamic site. http://www.muslimunited.org/topics/prophet/wives.html Two years earlier, Muhammad had beheaded Huyeiy, the father of Safia along with 900 men of Bani Quraiza.
Safiyah was seventeen and very beautiful when Muslims killed her father, husband and many of her relatives. In the same day the Prophet of Allah wanted to sleep with her...
But, of course this is all Islamophobia, because the great scholar Obama said that "Islam teaches peace".
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 3:48 am
Mohammed was the Joseph Smith of the Middle Ages
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Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 4:45 am
Remember Boko Haram's kidnapping of girls at some school in Nigeria a few months ago?
Wonder not about what happened to them... it is there in the Qur'an.
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 5:07 am
A rule has been instituted the the Australian federal parliament today that forces anyone wearing a burqa or similar garb to sit behind a glass screen if they wish to witness parliamentary sessions.
Of course the usual bleating from Muslim women has already started because they claim they are being treated as second class citizens.
But that is the essence of Islam, treating women as second class citizens. I would think they'd feel right at home.
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 7:33 am
(October 2, 2014 at 3:48 am)oukoida Wrote: Mohammed was the Joseph Smith of the Middle Ages
I'm starting to see parallels
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 7:56 am
The Bible isnt exactly filled with gender equality, either. Kinda makes me wonder, why did Islam cause the Middle East to decend into a misogynistic cesspool while Europe and the Americas embraced sufferage?
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 9:02 am
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(October 2, 2014 at 7:56 am)TaraJo Wrote: The Bible isnt exactly filled with gender equality, either. Kinda makes me wonder, why did Islam cause the Middle East to decend into a misogynistic cesspool while Europe and the Americas embraced sufferage? Jesus was a huge moderating force on the Old Testament. No such luck with Mohammed.
Here's another one. Wafa Sultan:
Unfortunately his [Mohammed's] acts define normal Islam, and not radical Islam ...
Mohammed said "A man who's nose runs with blood, mucus, or pus, has the right to expect his wife to lick it with her tongue".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgUtga5ISE
Dr. Obama must have missed that verse.
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 9:19 am
(October 2, 2014 at 7:56 am)TaraJo Wrote: The Bible isnt exactly filled with gender equality, either. Kinda makes me wonder, why did Islam cause the Middle East to decend into a misogynistic cesspool while Europe and the Americas embraced sufferage?
Because of nationalism during the enlightenment. You see between 1600-1900 was when scientific progress and the ideas of government by people along human rights began to really take off. During the majority of that period Europe was divided in to many nations that were in aconstant power struggle, that made the effective suppression of ideas far more difficult. During the same timeframe the entire muslim world was ruled by the ottoman caliphate, where there one government and no power struggle. Also unlike Christianity, Islam is also a political system at is core, making the seperation of church that is so necessary far more difficult.
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RE: Women in Islam 101
October 2, 2014 at 9:25 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2014 at 9:26 am by Aoi Magi.)
Christianity is a more mature religion compared to Islam, and it's already dying off. Islam will soon follow.
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