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The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
(October 20, 2016 at 11:41 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(October 20, 2016 at 11:20 am)Shell B Wrote: We were talking about this recently. Oftentimes, people kudos for part but not all the post. Maybe that's the case? Kudos aren't staff related either, so don't feel weird. Smile

I only kudos people to get them to LOVE ME. They all must LOVE ME.

I have kudosed you, but I don't love you. You may now thank god for that.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
(October 20, 2016 at 1:14 am)robvalue Wrote: I've put a lot of thought into this, and I'm sorry to say this is final. I'm leaving the forum. I've fought long and hard to keep this place going in the right direction. Up until recently, I feel I have done that. Sadly, despite my best efforts, I have ultimately failed. It's to do with principles I can't compromise on. Unfortunately this means I can no longer stand by the forum, and being here only makes me sad. Apparently there is something coming about this issue so I will say more about it then.

That's not at all a reflection on the wonderful membership here. I think of many of you as friends, and I've been honoured to have been part of the community. You're welcome to keep in contact with me by email or Skype, both [email protected].

If things ever change, I might return. But sadly it's not looking like that's ever going to happen. Thank you all, and goodbye Heart

Sorry you're leaving Rob.

I'll keep in contact.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
(October 20, 2016 at 11:18 am)Tiberius Wrote: The problem is, rob suggested some changes and we discussed them, agreeing on some things and disagreeing on others. However for whatever reason he didn't create an official vote thread for the new rule. I find it very odd that he then complains about the fact that he's been "blocked" when as far as I am aware, he never created an official vote for the new rule that the staff actually agreed on.

I guess now we will write the new rule and vote on it ourselves.

Tibs, like I said, if you ever find yourself in shortage of staff, just PM. My situation with having time to spend properly moderating this forum has gotten worse tough, given baby. And she is already a hardass. If you need I am here.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
Sorry to see you go, Rob.

I can't say I understand your reasoning, but I respect it. Hope you stay well, my friend.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
(October 19, 2016 at 12:33 am)Mamacita Wrote: I think I've hit rock bottom in this thing called real life. It hurts to open my eyes in the morning. I wish I could take a break from real life, but I can't, so I'm taking a break from here. Ya know, Ivy logic. If you have me on fb, kewl. If not, find me, maybe. I might not accept, but what can ya lose, amaright? It won't take long. I'll be back maybe in a month, a year, or an hour. Maybe tonight. I'll come back with boom and full of life. If I come back still looking like rotting flesh, then throw me back out. I'll let you. Love you.

I hope everything turns out well, goodluck.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
Rob, I also am sorry to see you go over this.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
(October 20, 2016 at 1:14 am)robvalue Wrote: I've put a lot of thought into this, and I'm sorry to say this is final. I'm leaving the forum. I've fought long and hard to keep this place going in the right direction. Up until recently, I feel I have done that. Sadly, despite my best efforts, I have ultimately failed. It's to do with principles I can't compromise on. Unfortunately this means I can no longer stand by the forum, and being here only makes me sad. Apparently there is something coming about this issue so I will say more about it then.

That's not at all a reflection on the wonderful membership here. I think of many of you as friends, and I've been honoured to have been part of the community. You're welcome to keep in contact with me by email or Skype, both [email protected].

If things ever change, I might return. But sadly it's not looking like that's ever going to happen. Thank you all, and goodbye Heart

Um okay...so I just saw THIS... Huh 

What the hell is going on around here lately?  Sad

Please, dont do this, Rob...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
I've been away and am still catching up with what's been happening, with severely limited time on my hands right now.

So, Rob, I'm truly sorry to see you go and I hope you'll come back to us soon.
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
(October 20, 2016 at 3:42 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Um okay...so I just saw THIS... Huh 

What the hell is going on around here lately?  Sad

Please, dont do this, Rob...


As much as it hurts to have read his post, I can understand. He's got his principles and I respect him for standing to them.

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RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
I had to make this one last post, to thank everyone for being so kind, and to
apologise for any upset.

I made my position clear in the staff area, I feel everyone deserves to know what it is.

At the very least, I think all private conversations between members of the forum should stay private, whether they occurred by forum PM or elsewhere. This is basic privacy for me. When I realised this loophole in the rules, and pointed it out, it made me feel physically sick that I was opposed on this. I'm allowed to just air dirty laundry, or slander people, as long as I refer to off-forum chat. Why? Why would we protect this behaviour?

It's very simple: if you're discussing a private conversation, you're either breaking the confidentially of another forum member, or you're misquoting them and putting words in their mouth. Either way round is very serious, so if it's anything of a personal/private nature, it doesn't actually matter whether it was said or not. For this reason, being able to confirm it by looking at a forum PM is irrelevant.

I made this position clear, and that I can't compromise it. Yet here we are, the staff do not want private conversations kept private. It's too much for me. It makes no difference where it took place because the staff aren't going to publicly confirm whether a member really did say something highly personal to the forum at large, are they? So from the point of view of every regular member, it's just the same.

I gave the staff plenty of time to be reasonable about this and to work out a new rule. No rule has been forthcoming. If one was made, I could come back. I hope everyone can understand that putting free speech ahead of privacy like this is just too much for me to bear. I can't be a part of a forum with such flawed basic values, it hurts me too much.

I do hope to hear that this position is reconsidered in the future. This will be my goodbye until such a time. I love you guys and I'm sorry.
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