Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Scoopypoop got banned? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I SAY!

[Mystical]

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I am the executioner. You have a question for me? I can undone his ban, i can apologize to appease the populace. I will sooner give up my "job"  as a moderator than that. Will you defend him him and his posting of anything of worth?

I want to see you try to do that. I love free speech, but free speech is not silencing others with a few buzzwords.

I am man enough to stand. Anyone defending scoobs talk now or be forever forgotten.

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Perhaps you ban people that you disagree with.

KUSA bans are not one mod actions. They're exhaustively fretted upon and about and around by mods and admins and there's a vote count requisite. LP was just enacting a forum administration action. You've been around long enough to know that, so I consider your accusation provocative.
But, my little opinion doesn't matter.. anymore. 

As for anyone who has a question about trolling and what qualifies as trolling--I refer you to the part in the rules where it says actions are described as being at the moderators discretion whether a member has qualified themselves for the ban or not. Considering trolling is an ambiguous state, so too seem the rulings sometimes, but I trust our moderation staff to make the proper decisions regarding this forum. Having been a mod, I can account to the fact that any mod actions are reactionary, not aggressive with an intent or agenda. Fools hang themselves sometimes. I thought scoops was a troll when I came across him. Surprised he hung around so long, tbh. Whe you look at the totality of contribution and the majority being trolling, then the minority of legitimate posts is outweighed and amount to nothing. 

Any questions on the rules? Here u go.
Trolling 

[KUSA]

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Perhaps you ban people that you disagree with.

KUSA bans are not one mod actions. They're exhaustively fretted upon and about and around by mods and admins and there's a vote count requisite. LP was just enacting a forum administration action. You've been around long enough to know that, so I consider your accusation provocative.
But, my little opinion doesn't matter.. anymore. 

As for anyone who has a question about trolling and what qualifies as trolling--I refer you to the part in the rules where it says actions are described as being at the moderators discretion whether a member has qualified themselves for the ban or not. Considering trolling is an ambiguous state, so too seem the rulings sometimes, but I trust our moderation staff to make the proper decisions regarding this forum. Having been a mod, I can account to the fact that any mod actions are reactionary, not aggressive with an intent or agenda. Fools hang themselves sometimes. I thought scoops was a troll when I came across him. Surprised he hung around so long, tbh. Whe you look at the totality of contribution and the majority being trolling, then the minority of legitimate posts is outweighed and amount to nothing. 

Any questions on the rules? Here u go.
Trolling 

Most of the time it boils down to whether the person is liked or not. Scooby had some radical opinions but as someone else mentioned, he actually believed in what he said. So it comes down to the fact that he just didn't fit in.

I'm not worried about it, just pointing it out. There are fuck tons of forums out there. If someone doesn't fit in one of them they can just find another one. I've done it lots of times.

[Joods]

I wasn't trying to start a controversy here. I was honestly wondering because I looked at his last few posts and didn't see where there was any instances of trolling. I will own my shit and stand corrected if examples of this are shown. Many here don't like his views and that's fine. But where did he cross the line in his recent posts? I'm honestly not trying to stir up shit but really, we've had other members do far worse and get to stay.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Scooby was a troll.

[Joods]

GS, you may be right about that, but if that was really the case, then he should have been gone a long time ago.

[c172]

It might have been older posts that weighed heavier. I don't know. I think he kudoed me once.

[Mystical]

GS, you may be right about that, but if that was really the case, then he should have been gone a long time ago.

It takes time once a report has been made, for the case to be made for or against even voting and even then the current and past behavior is viewed and talked about.. sometimes members create more reports ontop of reports and those need sifted through then culminated from many report threads to one thread so voting can begin. Depending upon mod/admin availability and the nature of the ban controversy, this process can take awhile to even get voting started much less reach quorum. Before I left a new procedure called devils advocate was put in place where a mod would take up the defense of the member. Knowing how talky the mods are--scoobs could very well have been banned for something he did weeks ago.

As to your question I don't know and can't say about where lines are drawn or whatnot. It's obviously all a case by case basis. 

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KUSA I have to disagree with you. Many unliked members who "don't fit in" hang around here just fine. There are members here that I daresay loathe, but i dont question their right or ability to be here. This forum in particular welcomes people from all beliefs, walks of life, etc. You dont have to be liked to be a member. Hell I got myself temp banned once as a newbie, and didn't have a problem with bias when I returned. When it comes down to the general question, is it everyone else or just you that's a problem--more often than not the answer is clear.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

@Nymphadora: How many people report trolls. Most of them are just fun to fuck with. It's only when they reach that critical mass of assholiness that they're banned.

[brewer]

Does the banhammer produce an NDE? 

I do so hope he makes a video.