Atheism = Desperation

[robvalue]

The scientific method and belief in an unproven premise are not compatible. If you think you are religious and scientific then either (a) you're not really scientific or (b) you are not applying your scientific reasoning correctly to religion. Just looking around and coming to conclusions based on emotions or a lack of better understanding is not scientific.

I'm more than happy to be proved wrong as always, it's just that no proof has ever been forthcoming. Not even a whiff of a proof.

Is not believing the world was created yesterday by a 700ft invisible zebra desperation as well? Atheism is really simple, so much so that everyone seems to want to add their own spin on what it "actually" is.

And attacking atheism does not make any other point of view any more correct, it's pure deflection from owning the burden of proof.

[Chas]

I think the sun & the moon (and their location from earth) along with our atmosphere, are enough to conclude that god exists.

Why?

[Aoi Magi]

I think the sun & the moon (and their location from earth) along with our atmosphere, are enough to conclude that god exists.

Why?

Because the hole fits the puddle perfectly. Duh!

[Chas]

Don't you wish to have somebody in the sky who listens to your calls and needs & respond to it ? that's a dream to most humans.
My point : atheists stopped dreaming ; that is desperation. they concluded that god doesn't exist and terminated their dream.

I haven't stopped dreaming.

I dream of the day when Islam is a tiny, unimportant cult instead of a large, dangerous cult.

[Cato]

I think the sun & the moon (and their location from earth) along with our atmosphere, are enough to conclude that god exists.

Some logic you have there champ. Since my dick would fit in your ass, must mean Allah is real and wants me to fuck you.

Hopefully, you'll see how silly your conclusion is now.

[dyresand]

I can't really see it as desperation...

[Anomalocaris]

We are only desperate because we sincerely wish to believe everyone said to be human has the potential for enlightenment, but our observation say somehow you are said to be human.

[Cyberman]

Actually, Atlas, it's the dream of wanting there to be a friend in the sky that listens to your needs and responds to you that's desperation. You can dream it all you want - just don't go pretending it's real until you know it is. Most certainly don't go around selling it to others as real, like the William Lane Craigs and the Hamza Tzortzis's of the world.

But let's say a god created everything and set up invisible rules to run the whole show. How did it do this and how can we establish the rules? See, science isn't just about putting together a story of what happened; it also has to explain the mechanism for how it happened.

[abaris]

Let me tell you something. As long as I did believe, wasn't that long, to be honest, there was much more desperation. Just because I blamed every mishap or tragedy in my life on myself, since I somehow must have angered that almighty being above.

[robvalue]

I would call this argument the "double underpants gnomes" argument:

Step 1: Make observations
Step 2: ???
Step 3: A god must have made everything
Step 4: ???
Step 5: God is exactly as described in my story book
Step 6: Do exactly what I say or I'll beat the shit out of you

Religion is the desperation to have an answer to everything in nice black and white terms, plus justification for whatever beliefs you hold already. Sceptical atheism is the desire to deal with reality on reality's terms.