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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 10:10 pm
(November 16, 2014 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Good post.
The point of punishment MUST be to encourage correct behaviour. Otherwise, it isn't punishment, but simply vicarious cruelty. If an individual makes it to a supposed afterlife, punishment should cease, as there is no longer any point in correcting that person's behaviour.
Boru
Not always. Somethimes punishment can be administered to criminal in order to keep a bad person out of society, hence prisons.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 10:14 pm
(November 16, 2014 at 8:40 pm)professor Wrote: The whole reasoning of this thread is wrong.
Hell was made for the devil and his angels.
There is no purgatory and the Hitlers, Stalins ,Maos are not going to Heaven,
so the only option left is to be sent where the devil is going.
There are people who would not be fit for heaven.
What else would you do with them?
Are you seriously suggesting that the omnipotent creator of all that ever was or ever will be is constrained by those two choices?
What an impotent god you worship.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2014 at 10:19 pm by professor.)
Ryan, you are putting me on right?
You don't usually get to pick your neighbors but you do get to pick who you want to live with.
So you would be OK with living with these monsters forever?
You would be happy to share your intimate fellowship and most precious things with people who despised you, everything you stand for (uncompromisingly) and hate you?
This I gotta see.
Yes Cthu, there are only 2 options.
Ever hear of an incorrigible criminal?
One who will NEVER repent.
You put them away for ever. No other choice.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 10:31 pm
(November 16, 2014 at 5:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: (November 16, 2014 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Good post.
The point of punishment MUST be to encourage correct behaviour. Otherwise, it isn't punishment, but simply vicarious cruelty. If an individual makes it to a supposed afterlife, punishment should cease, as there is no longer any point in correcting that person's behaviour.
Boru
Eternal punishment is a deterrent and thus does encourage correct behavior....just not in the person being punished.
Also it is logically possible for a finite amount of punishment to last for any length of time...including infinite lengths of time.
This explains your economic views as well.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 10:42 pm
(November 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm)professor Wrote: Ryan, you are putting me on right?
You don't usually get to pick your neighbors but you do get to pick who you want to live with.
So you would be OK with living with these monsters forever?
He made them, and he can't possibly have a problem with the actions that make those men so hated. I don't know how well monsters get along with one another, not being one or worshiping one.
Quote:You would be happy to share your intimate fellowship and most precious things with people who despised you, everything you stand for (uncompromisingly) and hate you?
This I gotta see.
I don't see where there's a lot of incongruity. God's got something major in common with all those men. It's only on the details where they differ.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 10:42 pm
Quote:when you were theists did not jackoff in fear of going to hell(or blind)?
I bet you wear thick glasses, Woodie.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 11:08 pm
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(November 16, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Why does God not want these men in heaven, anyway? Can't stand having competition? Because god wants slaves, not freethinkers. (And yes, there is a babble-book reference as such.)
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 11:20 pm
(November 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm)professor Wrote: Yes Cthu, there are only 2 options.
Ever hear of an incorrigible criminal?
One who will NEVER repent.
You put them away for ever. No other choice.
Surely an omnipotent god can cobble together a convincing argument, no?
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 16, 2014 at 11:34 pm
(November 16, 2014 at 8:40 pm)professor Wrote: The whole reasoning of this thread is wrong.
Hell was made for the devil and his angels.
There is no purgatory and the Hitlers, Stalins ,Maos are not going to Heaven,
so the only option left is to be sent where the devil is going.
There are people who would not be fit for heaven.
What else would you do with them?
Heaven and hell isn't about places where good and bad people go. It's about saying what Yahweh wants to hear. This is why I doubt Hitler is even in hell. He was a catholic. He worshiped Jesus and Yahweh He might be called least in heaven for committing suicide, but I doubt he'd be in hell. Either way he's more likely to be in heaven than Anne Frank, because she probably didn't believe in Jesus.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 17, 2014 at 12:36 am
(November 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm)professor Wrote: Yes Cthu, there are only 2 options.
Ever hear of an incorrigible criminal?
One who will NEVER repent.
You put them away for ever. No other choice.
So, what about the jaywalkers and shoplifters? Put them away for life too?
Let me amend my prior statement:
What an impotent tyrant you worship.
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