Science Keeps Working

[Brakeman]

[robvalue]

Oh, yeah. It's on its way out baby. Time to get on the A train

The age of reason is coming.

[Ryantology]

My skepticism is at max level when the topic is anything having to do with either government or government subsidized research.
As long as scientists are tied to the grant strings of the (publicly financed) feeding trough of govt. my skepticism is unbounded. Yours ought to be also.

But nonexistent regarding the fairy tales you want to believe. Because, at the heart of it, what you want to believe is all that matters. You dismiss what reality has to say about itself every single time it contradicts the fairy tale.

That's not skepticism. That's just pitiful. So much of what you use and benefit from in life comes from a source you insist has nothing useful to contribute, for no reason you can even coherently describe. You're an old man who is hell-bent on dying as ignorant as the day you were born.

[professor]

Ryan, the vast majority of benefits you and Beccs have considered here, have had absolutely NOTHING to do with grant backed "Research" by people doing it for government entities.

Perhaps you somehow missed my usage of the word "Government" in my above words.
The granting of bucks to research is a relatively new event, thus the prostitution of scientist is a covert ongoing process.

Remove public funding and scientific investigation becomes more in line with other businesses.
Yes- businesses.
Every enterprise involved in research is doing it for some benefit.

Prostitution, in this case is just like the kind we are most familiar with- doing something for money that no normal parent would want their daughter to do.
Only by closing our eyes to the power of money can we imagine these "Researchers" are bereft of influence via the desires of government.

[IATIA]

So let me get this straight. If the government quit giving out grants for research, then the scientists would no longer "do it for the money".

Makes sense to me.

[professor]

NO IA, the granting of money is the creation of INFLUENCE to fulfill govt. desires.
The scientist comes up (or a similitude of it) with what the agency wants and he gets money.
No longer does he need to eat at McDonalds.

[IATIA]

One can receive a grant for researching just about anything. One can receive a grant to study the life cycle of a tree frog in South America. I guess the government is hoping the frogs can be used as WMD. Raining South American frogs could devastate a country.

I see your point.

[Surgenator]

Ryan, the vast majority of benefits you and Beccs have considered here, have had absolutely NOTHING to do with grant backed "Research" by people doing it for government entities.

Perhaps you somehow missed my usage of the word "Government" in my above words.
The granting of bucks to research is a relatively new event, thus the prostitution of scientist is a covert ongoing process.

Remove public funding and scientific investigation becomes more in line with other businesses.
Yes- businesses.
Every enterprise involved in research is doing it for some benefit.

Prostitution, in this case is just like the kind we are most familiar with- doing something for money that no normal parent would want their daughter to do.
Only by closing our eyes to the power of money can we imagine these "Researchers" are bereft of influence via the desires of government.

So I'm a prostiture. Well, I better buy a short skirt and some stelatoes. Ladies, should I wax my mid region or shave?

[rexbeccarox]

So I'm a prostiture. Well, I better buy a short skirt and some stelatoes. Ladies, should I wax my mid region or shave?

While, initially, the most painful thing I put myself through every six weeks, I find waxing to be a much more pleasant method on the hole... I mean whole.

[IATIA]

So I'm a prostiture. Well, I better buy a short skirt and some stelatoes. Ladies, should I wax my mid region or shave?

Have you ever tried waxing? I am thinking "What Women Want".