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"I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
#31
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 12:36 pm)abaris Wrote: She's not obese in any way.

FFS I never said she was obese. Give me a break.
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#32
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 10:01 am)Chad32 Wrote: It is a bit odd that her before picture is made to look as bad as possible, with dirty clothes and bad lighting.
That is a classic marketing technique. You see it used in infomercials all the time.
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#33
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
Here's some information

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-weight-matter/
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#34
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Alex K Wrote: Here's some information

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-weight-matter/

And this contradicts anything I've said how?

In fact, I'm glad you linked me to that. It's backing up exactly what I've been saying. The entire conclusion is something I'm 100% in agreement with.

The story in the OP directly relates size acceptance with healthiness. My main contention. What does the conclusion in your link say? "this has nothing to do with size acceptance".

Thank you for agreeing with me.
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#35
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 12:42 pm)Napoléon Wrote: The best argument I could see being made from this, is that skinny people can be just as unhealthy as overweight people.

No, those studies discovered that all other common morbidity factors normalized for, slightly overweight people lived longer than "normal" people as well. They didn't look into anything related to underweight people.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#36
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
Actually by posting it I didn't mean to imply at all that the link contradicts your point of view or supports mine, I just wanted to throw in some info from a reliable source so we have something more concrete to talk about. I had to leave so couldn't read it properly yet.

(December 15, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 15, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Alex K Wrote: Here's some information

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-weight-matter/

And this contradicts anything I've said how?

In fact, I'm glad you linked me to that. It's backing up exactly what I've been saying. The entire conclusion is something I'm 100% in agreement with.

The story in the OP directly relates size acceptance with healthiness. My main contention. What does the conclusion in your link say? "this has nothing to do with size acceptance".

Thank you for agreeing with me.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#37
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 9:43 am)Napoléon Wrote: [Image: tumblr_n1hk05tDHv1qgx907o1_1280.jpg]

She doesn't look fat in the second photo, in the first she did look a little on the skinny side but nothing worth noting.



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#38
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 9:54 am)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 15, 2014 at 9:50 am)Alex K Wrote: You, and she needs a sense of perspective, she's does not have a particularly unhealthy weight on the "after" picture.

I wouldn't say she necessarily does on the before picture either.

One of my main issues is none of what she claims is supported by doctors, and the general message that fat can be healthy is a dangerous one. Just as dangerous as the pro-anorexia messages.

I think what's really happening is the word "fat" isn't very clear, and we each have different meanings assigned to it. It seems you assign the meaning over "over ideal weight" -- which may well be the case here -- while, speaking for myself, I connote "fat" to mean approaching obesity, but not quite there.

This woman doesn't look fat, to me:

[Image: tumblr_ng9thp4xxa1qgx907o2_1280.jpg]

She may not be society's ideal of feminine perfection, but that is a social construct, not a medical opinion.

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#39
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
Maybe chubby, fluffy or something akin to that, but fat is where i can pull a sleeve over my leg or put both legs into one pant leg.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#40
RE: "I may be fat, but I beat my eating disorder"
(December 15, 2014 at 9:54 am)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 15, 2014 at 9:50 am)Alex K Wrote: You, and she needs a sense of perspective, she's does not have a particularly unhealthy weight on the "after" picture.

I wouldn't say she necessarily does on the before picture either.

One of my main issues is none of what she claims is supported by doctors, and the general message that fat can be healthy is a dangerous one. Just as dangerous as the pro-anorexia messages.

Fat is healthy, being fat is subjective to a certain degree.

The pictures remind me of this girl I know who's taken it too far trying to be skinny.
She always sends me pictures of herself to my phone and I don't beat around the bush in telling her that she needs to eat some fucking cheese burgers and that I miss how her thighs used to look but she just laughs at me.
On the first picture here, her thighs just look like two pencils that's how my friends look.
Now if I knew any girl and her thighs were looking that thin, and she continually talked about all the cardio she was doing and so on and so on, I'd definitely tell them to relax a bit more, at least give themselves a treat at the weekend so it's not just a one sided war against all the fat which the human body needs.

This has happened more than once, another girl I knew would continually talk about running all day long and so on, but I can relate to that because I can get gym obsessed too, I think some people, like me and these female friends of mine, just need a reminder every now and then that the human body functions fine without going on cross trainers for an hour a day followed by weight machines and then a heavy day of physical work the day after.

I think the message is more like "I used to be obsessive but now I relax a bit more" Rather than. "I don't give a fuck now, It's cheeseburgers and pizza for me everyday, EVERYBODY FOLLOW ME, AWWWW YEHHHHHHH !"

But relaxing with a treat isn't obviously the message that should be given to everyone. I wouldn't say to the obese guy in work who has mcdonalds and redbull for breakfast that he should treat himself more and that fat is healthy, because fat is definitely not healthy for him, he already has too much of it.


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