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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 1:28 am
(December 19, 2014 at 1:19 am)Elskidor Wrote: Kinda how I see them, but I know a lot of people like them so I didn't want to step on any loyalist's toes.
I liked the first iPhones, they were sleek, and had some seriously sexy presentation.
Since.... was it the IOS 4 or... 5? I don't know... but one of them threw away that gorgeous sleekness and replaced it with a trashy design it has retained since... damn software looks like its aesthetic was drawn by a five year old.
... Mac, well... it's expensive, and you cant really fix it if it breaks... and somewhat older models had a pretty nice blend of intuitive filing and being really easy on the eyes (dashboard is amazing).
Now... they're way to into that "x number of fingers performing y motion does z!" thing. and it fucks with all the shit.
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 1:51 am
(December 19, 2014 at 7:50 am)robvalue Wrote: I really hate the way countries get around their own minimum wage by outsourcing to countries that don't have one. It's disgusting.
I know that makes me something of a hypocrite, as I'm well aware many things I have bought will have gone this route. I try and buy ethically made products where I can, in general. I don't always succeed. I admire your noble effort. My thought is always, "What difference will it make to them?" As far as I can tell, none at all.
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 2:41 am
(December 19, 2014 at 1:19 am)Elskidor Wrote: Kinda how I see them, but I know a lot of people like them so I didn't want to step on any loyalist's toes.
The whole notion of 'brand loyalty' going beyond liking a product to where someone feels the would incur the wrath of the faithful is so bizarre and frankly deeply worrying for the human race.
I have always said that manipulating people's psychology in advertising should be as illegal as manipulating peoples biology or body chemistry is. A lot of my friends have unbelievable levels of debt, not just mortgages and bank loans but store credit, deferred loans, credit cards, overdrafts...
This is too fucked up for words.
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December 20, 2014 at 3:35 am
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I'm ok with the iphone, but after seeing friends who have the Samsung Galaxy...man, I wish I had me one of those.
If only I believed in Santa...he'd surely bring me one.
The working conditions, I'm sadly surprised by that, though. I probably shouldn't be.
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 6:12 am
(December 20, 2014 at 1:28 am)Alice Wrote: ... Mac, well... it's expensive, and you cant really fix it if it breaks... and somewhat older models had a pretty nice blend of intuitive filing and being really easy on the eyes (dashboard is amazing).
Now... they're way to into that "x number of fingers performing y motion does z!" thing. and it fucks with all the shit.
It's actually pretty practical when you get used to it 
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 8:06 am
(December 20, 2014 at 2:41 am)ManMachine Wrote: I have always said that manipulating people's psychology in advertising should be as illegal as manipulating peoples biology or body chemistry is. A lot of my friends have unbelievable levels of debt, not just mortgages and bank loans but store credit, deferred loans, credit cards, overdrafts...
This is too fucked up for words.
MM
I think the problem has more to do with not teaching people how to balance their checkbooks and other practical life skills.
As for not manipulating people's biological chemistry...what are you talking about? Everything we eat and do manipulates our internal chemistry, and some people NEED to have their chemistry manipulated.
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 9:08 am
I saw the documentary.
The workhouses in China were appalling, and regardless of what Apple says they (don't) know, when your supplier is fitting suicide nets to their factories and accommodation alarm bells should start ringing.
But someone earlier mentioned the other electronics companies that this documentary ignored. When it came to the tin mining operations in Indo-China, they're all culpable, and we're all to blame (partly). Before anyone jumps down my throat about it, how much do we actually care about the supply chain that goes into developing our phones, PCs or TVs etc? Vast swathes of the areas where they mine the tin (legally and illegally) have been irrevocabley decimated by the mining operations there, but nobody really seems to care because demand is almost contanst regardless of the price.ni mean, here I am typing on an iPad. Hell I even watched the documentary on this thing, so I'd be a hypocrite if I started saying 'down with Apple!'
What needs to happen is more conscientious supply chain management. Apple already charges well, well over the odds for a phone that probably costs them around $100 to make and ship. Take some of the profit and re-invest in the 3rd world countries that supply you. Demand will always be there, as is evidenced by the massive market for technological goods around the world. So take a little hit. Fat chance of it happening.
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 9:56 am
Iphones are overpriced - Why buy an Iphone if you can buy a smartphone with the same functions and quality for half the price? The same can be said for the iPad, there's so many great tablets out there for a cheaper price.
I actually own an iPod nano because it's a product I enjoy for being small and useful for music listeners.
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 9:58 am
(December 20, 2014 at 6:12 am)Lucanus Wrote: It's actually pretty practical when you get used to it
I'm like 200 years old... I know how to use a computer... I learned how to click mouse and buttons on DOS... computers weren't interesting until then.
Now? They are too interesting. I can't deal with it; I've got a brainblock like i'm my own grandmother. I'm not a very precise person when I'm using a trackpad...
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RE: Apple and Iphone - full of Ishit.
December 20, 2014 at 9:59 am
I sometimes play FPSs with the trackpad.
It's utter shit, but it adds to the challenge.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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