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Teen suicide
#21
RE: Teen suicide
(December 31, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Jextin Wrote: Suicide is sad in general, and sad that things like this have been going on for MANY years. Personally I feel the most sad when I hear about guys like me that kill themselves from loneliness and nobody even cares or just pass it off as mental illness. and yes i hate christians too because they have ZERO empathy for single guys, but so does 99% of the rest of the world it seems. love how everyone expects single guys to just sit quietly and smile. but when they get pushed too hard and out of frustration pull a school shooting, they are labled as the bad guys.

Strange little segue you've taken here. Are you saying that school shooters aren't bad guys, they're just frustrated?
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#22
RE: Teen suicide
(December 31, 2014 at 12:34 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: However it is also somepeoples nature to kill others, does that justify their actions?

Wait, are you seriously comparing homosexuality and murder? Aside from the fact that the latter is a crime while the former is just something you dislike because your book tells you to feel that way, the propensity to murder has no known genetic precursor.

Homosexuality does.

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#23
RE: Teen suicide
Correction I don't like murder and homosexuality because of a book.

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#24
RE: Teen suicide
Do you have a well thought out reason for why there's something wrong with homosexuality? Why it should be the business of anyone else between consenting adults?

The word "sin" is ridiculous, all it means is "stuff God doesn't like happening". I don't care what he does and doesn't like. And since he doesn't exist, neither does sin. It's the church leaders wanting you shackled up nice and tight, so that you feel you need them because you're so wretched. It's a horrific scam.
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#25
RE: Teen suicide
(January 2, 2015 at 9:03 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Correction I don't like murder and homosexuality because of a book.

Sorry, someone comparing sexual acts between consenting adults to fucking murder isn't even worth debating.
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#26
RE: Teen suicide
(January 2, 2015 at 9:03 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Correction I don't like murder and homosexuality because of a book.

Well, that was ambiguous.
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RE: Teen suicide
(January 2, 2015 at 11:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Do you have a well thought out reason for why there's something wrong with homosexuality? Why it should be the business of anyone else between consenting adults?

The word "sin" is ridiculous, all it means is "stuff God doesn't like happening". I don't care what he does and doesn't like. And since he doesn't exist, neither does sin. It's the church leaders wanting you shackled up nice and tight, so that you feel you need them because you're so wretched. It's a horrific scam.
I don't depend on my church leaders.

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#28
RE: Teen suicide
(December 20, 2014 at 3:43 am)robvalue Wrote: My wife just showed me an article in the Daily Mail about a 14 year old christian girl who committed suicide. She did this because she was gay, and couldn't handle telling her parents. She felt such shame about not being what a Christian is "meant to be" that she took her own life.

Religion makes me sick to my core.
Odds are this girl and her parents were not close or she could have confided in her parents about anything. Chances are religion played no part in it.
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#29
RE: Teen suicide
(January 2, 2015 at 11:50 am)strawdawg Wrote: Odds are this girl and her parents were not close or she could have confided in her parents about anything. Chances are religion played no part in it.

Bullshit. Regardless of the relationship of the parents, Christianity says that homosexuality is evil. If religion had played no part and the relationship with her parents were bad, she would have just left her family. The religion conditioned her to believe her instinctual feelings were evil. It played the whole part.
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#30
RE: Teen suicide
From her point of view, there was no escaping God. She couldn't change who she was, and would only disappoint him and couldn't take it anymore. I'd say that has a lot to do with religion.
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