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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 5:22 am
(December 23, 2014 at 4:37 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I can tell how much you're hoping it happens again, too. You're so giddy and you can't hide it.
Yeah, and I can tell how much you hated it. Not because you really care if two police officers were the victims of a cop hating murderer, but because it goes against your narrative that the police are racist and abusive. You can't stand the thought of public sentiment supporting our police officers. You're so stricken that this incident turned public sentiment against your cop hating narrative and you can't hide it.
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 7:58 am
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Hey AT, now that there's been yet another senseless shooting by a mentally unstable violent individual who had no trouble getting his hands on a gun, only this time the tragedy has been heavily exploited by conservatives salivating like they haven't since 9/11, can we have some gun control now? Maybe if this nutcase had some problems getting a gun, these two police officers would be alive today.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/suspected-kil...ubled-past
Quote:According to police, Ismaaiyl Brinsley, the suspect in Saturday’s double homicide in Brooklyn, had a rap sheet that included 19 arrests in two states over the past decade for robbery and gun possession and served a two-year stint in a Georgia prison.
Brinsley’s family told police that he had a traumatic childhood and for years has been estranged from his family. The family told investigators that he may have had some undiagnosed emotional or mental issues and had as recently as last year attempted to hang himself, according to NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce during a press conference on Sunday afternoon.
Since school shootings aren't enough to warrant a serious discussion about gun control, maybe a shooting that conservatives give a crap about, if only to exploit it for political purposes, will inspire us.
In other news, other conservatives are busy concern trolling over how "hands up, don't shoot" is hate speech that inspires violence ( seriously),
Joe Scarborough Wrote:And despite my own views that America's criminal justice system is too unfair to young black males, and I have said it repeatedly for decades, I was blasted on social media as a racist for calling out the St. Louis Rams players. And United States Congressmen for recklessly promoting the phrase "hands up, don't shoot."
I was worried in real time for good reason that using those inflammatory words told anybody listening to them that Michael Brown was gunned down by a white cop while his hands were raised in surrender. I was angered at the inflammatory phrase and warned that using a phrase that the grand jury itself reported was never used, slander SL cops and would make the situation worse for cops across America, and it did. Why? Because words matter. Words matter.
"Hands up, don't shoot" is "reckless" and "inflammatory" and "slander"? How gentle must criticism of the police and our justice system be. Is any form of protest acceptable?
And by the way, the "dead cops" protest footage wasn't Al Sharpton's protest but Fox Noise misled viewers to think it was through some clever editing.
Media Matters Wrote:Fox & Friends Sunday repeatedly spliced footage of Al Sharpton speaking at a Washington, D.C. "Justice for All" march with footage from a separate event in New York City where some in the crowd chanted for "dead cops" to claim Sharpton is "calling to kill cops."
What a surprise!
But then again, clever video editing has been used in the past to generate conservative outrage. Remember Acorn? There are never any consequences for the deception. By the time the ruse is revealed, conservatives have moved on to the next thing to be outraged about.
But at least the know how to de-escalate the situation.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/12/al-sha...-nier-stop
Keep it classy, conservatives!
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 10:03 am
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The hatred for cops is not real hatred, but disapproval towards certain conducts that endanger human dignity and security - Some people just don't want police officers to have full power to retaliate - I'm glad that in my country every shot they fire has to be reported and brought in for questioning to make sure it was absolutely necessary.
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 11:15 am
(December 23, 2014 at 10:03 am)Blackout Wrote: It's funny that by my standards very few members can be considered far left, ...
You must understand that in American political discourse, every conservative (or what we consider "conservative"; I'm polite but you can call them what you want) has gotten into the habit of bandying around words like "socialist" and "far left" as a meaningless pejorative applied to anyone to the left of John McCain.
There is no "moderate left" to these guys. They've run so far to the right that they actually think Obama, a center-right president, is a "socialist".
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 11:30 am
(December 23, 2014 at 11:15 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (December 23, 2014 at 10:03 am)Blackout Wrote: It's funny that by my standards very few members can be considered far left, ...
You must understand that in American political discourse, every conservative (or what we consider "conservative"; I'm polite but you can call them what you want) has gotten into the habit of bandying around words like "socialist" and "far left" as a meaningless pejorative applied to anyone to the left of John McCain.
There is no "moderate left" to these guys. They've run so far to the right that they actually think Obama, a center-right president, is a "socialist". They're so far right it looks left from here.
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 5:49 pm
Oh, hey, ATheist, I thought you might like an update on how your masters at Fox have once again lied to you:
It turns out that who "kill a cop" protest that you were so proud of, thinking this was the smoking gun that linked the justice protesters to the murder of two police officers, was edited.
Not just edited to make it look like Al Sharpton's rally (we've already established that Fox made this "mistake" and then Tucker Carlson ran with it), but edited to look like it existed at all:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fo...ster-chant
TPM Wrote:A Baltimore Fox affiliate apologized Monday night for a report it ran over the weekend that deceptively edited protesters to look like they were chanting "kill a cop."
Gawker originally caught WBFF chopping up footage of a protest chant to sound like incitement to murder police on Monday.
The chant went "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops, are in cell blocks," according to C-SPAN footage. But WBFF cut the audio short and told viewers that the words were in fact "we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop."
Yeah, I'm sure that was an accident.
So once again, the source of conservative outrage turns out to be complete bullshit.
How does it feel to know the people who are leading you around by the nose have lied to you? Doesn't that bother you after a while?
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm
(December 23, 2014 at 5:22 am)A Theist Wrote: (December 23, 2014 at 4:37 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I can tell how much you're hoping it happens again, too. You're so giddy and you can't hide it.
Yeah, and I can tell how much you hated it. Not because you really care if two police officers were the victims of a cop hating murderer, but because it goes against your narrative that the police are racist and abusive. You can't stand the thought of public sentiment supporting our police officers. You're so stricken that this incident turned public sentiment against your cop hating narrative and you can't hide it.
I do admire your honesty in admitting that news of dead cops is great news for you and other conservatives. It lets you temporarily shift attention away from the fact that the freedom of killer cops is more important to you than the lives of innocent cops.
But yeah, I do hate it, because I don't want anybody to die. Not cops, and not the victims of cops. If anything, this tragedy is just one more reason why we need seriously strict gun control in this country. That is one guy who should have been nowhere near a firearm, ever.
But, you think this somehow disproves the fact that there are cops who are racist and abusive, and that the justice system is letting them get away with murder? All it seems to be proving is that if you let them get away with murder, over and over, then you're going to get people who decide they make better justice than the system.
I think the real narrative that you're trying to craft here is that liberals stand behind the cop killer and want cops dead. It must be frustrating to be reminded that conservatives openly call for cops and other agents of the government to be murdered on a regular basis.
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 7:03 pm
(December 23, 2014 at 4:35 am)A Theist Wrote: Maybe race hustling Cop haters like Al Sharpton should stop inciting violence against police officers....De Blasio's a POS. He played a big role in escalating the tensions there, along with Al Sharpton.
These are chickens coming home to roost. The NYPD has squandered the trust of its citizens by killing them for selling loose cigarettes, stop-and-frisk tactics that should appall any supporter of limited government, and an arrogance combined with ineptitude. Remember the Empire State Builing shootout? Nine bystanders injured by police bullets.
Let them earn their respect.
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 7:13 pm
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And we have "good cops" making fun of the murder of an unarmed person.
I wouldn't bet spare change that A Theist thinks of this as "escalating tensions".
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RE: Two NYPD Officers Ambushed And Murdered
December 23, 2014 at 7:27 pm
(December 23, 2014 at 10:03 am)Blackout Wrote: It's funny that by my standards very few members can be considered far left, even people like Min would fit more into the centre left spectrum considering the repercussions being far left has, that many people don't really understand - You want far left? Then go read the memo of a communist party in Europe, that's far left. The expressions far left and far right are thrown randomly without people realizing what they actually mean.
The hatred for cops is not real hatred, but disapproval towards certain conducts that endanger human dignity and security - Some people just don't want police officers to have full power to retaliate - I'm glad that in my country every shot they fire has to be reported and brought in for questioning to make sure it was absolutely necessary.
Indeed. I don't think that Americans really appreciate what 'far left' means in realworld terms, being very much a centre right country almost by definition.
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