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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 25, 2010 at 9:28 pm
No the bible does not specificly state "God hates homos." But it is easily implied and concluded from the condemnation he gives concerning homosexuality.
For you folks to state otherwise is being dishonest.
(Sidenote concerning that sig of tack's, I find it inconceivable that bishop, and by extension Tack for quoting it, that either one actually read the bible and can deny the hatred, violence and judgment brought forth by the main characters.)
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 25, 2010 at 9:28 pm
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Religious learning should be a completely optional thing. Of course, if you are teaching a specific religion and you want to rant about how awful other religions are than you probably should learn about them first, but only for credibility (giggle) purposes. Otherwise, it's really your prerogative.
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 25, 2010 at 9:39 pm
(February 25, 2010 at 9:28 pm)Dotard Wrote: No the bible does not specificly state "God hates homos." But it is easily implied and concluded from the condemnation he gives concerning homosexuality.
For you folks to state otherwise is being dishonest.
(Sidenote concerning that sig of tack's, I find it inconceivable that bishop, and by extension Tack for quoting it, that either one actually read the bible and can deny the hatred, violence and judgment brought forth by the main characters.)
Well I've seriously looked into it and found that to be wrong (the bible's take on homosexuality).
I agree with the bishop too.
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 25, 2010 at 10:20 pm
(February 25, 2010 at 9:28 pm)Dotard Wrote: No the bible does not specificly state "God hates homos." But it is easily implied and concluded from the condemnation he gives concerning homosexuality.
For you folks to state otherwise is being dishonest.
(Sidenote concerning that sig of tack's, I find it inconceivable that bishop, and by extension Tack for quoting it, that either one actually read the bible and can deny the hatred, violence and judgment brought forth by the main characters.)
Lev 20:13 If a man lies with man as he lies with a woman, both of them have done what is destetable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
sounds like hate gays to me
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 25, 2010 at 10:46 pm
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Xyster Wrote:Lev 20:13 If a man lies with man as he lies with a woman, both of them have done what is destetable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
sounds like hate gays to me
No no... you've misunderstood her! She is clearly noting that they have done that which she thinks is extremely erotic... but will never be able to experience... and is understandably jealous. As we can see by the bold: " both of them have done what is destetable"... whilst one of them doing something detestable (meaning that "God" envies of... herein being having sex with a penis) is tolerable by her (she feels terrible envy towards women who can enjoy being penetrated, hence her anti-woman stance)... two penises just drive her insane. It is her ultimate fantasy... and her own creations experiencing this before her is a powerful insult to her... and understandably makes this psychotic bitch extremely pissed.
So really... she loves gays (she loves just about everyone after all)... but is ultimately so envious of their relationship that she can't bear their happiness and pleasure She needs to see them die and suffer for consolation against the intense emotional pain she suffers from their pleasure... And being a sadist... she finds " their blood will be on their own heads. (read: the head of the penis) to be a mild pleasure that she someday wants to experience... but knows she can't, and is deeply hurt by this (and continues to be hurt each time it occurs). It is a large part of the reason we have heard nothing from her in so long... she has gone completely mental and demented by her own desires.
See... the Bible can be interpreted in a lot of fascinating ways "God" clearly does not hate gays (in the same way as she doesn't hate murderers... only that they insist on doing her job and being happy)
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 26, 2010 at 12:58 am
Quote:I have been asked to write an essay on whether theists should learn about religions other than their own.
NO
'Should' is a moral imperative. I do not have the right or the arrogance to suggest people ought do anything on the basis of my personal moral values.
There are pragmatic reasons comparative religious studies are good idea,just as teaching children critical thinking skills are probably pragmatically useful.However, looking at leading clergy and politicians,that's arguable..
I think the question implies that human beings are essentially rational and reasoning animals,or at least capable of being so with training. I've seen no evidence that this is true in principle. In fact, my perception is that our most consistent behaviour demonstrates the opposite. To quote the cliche "humans are not so much rational as rationalising animals"
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 26, 2010 at 1:29 am
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@Dotard- dishonest really.. and I haven't read the Bible... Just because you hate religion doesn't mean religion teaches hate. True it has historically has it's zealots and wars, but hatred breeds zealots. You can see the Bible as the good news of Jesus Christ or not. Don't think for a second that you can come close to telling me how to interpret my religions holy scriptures with your religious view and that they'd have any meaning whatsoever. Go write the pink unicorn holy writing so we'll all have a good read.
@Xyster-Did you even look at the original text for levitcus, I'm fearing you guys are just starting to put up walls to communication
Believe the Bible or don't, but don't judge other's interpretations of it, without the common decency of research, especially being atheists. You can mock people all you want without lies. If you choose to spread hate then enjoy the world you create.
After rereading perhaps that was alittle heated. I get it, you're not a believer so all you can do, if you've read it at all, is take it at face value, literally. But like the fundies you so love to mock you can be just as ignorant in your literal interpretation.
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 26, 2010 at 10:02 am
I think people should, because I think people should always learn about things. I'm a big fan of that knowledge thing.
I would take it to the level that a comparative religion class should be available in school. Would I make it mandatory? No.
Me thinking people should do it, doesn't mean they have to.
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 26, 2010 at 12:57 pm
@Tack ... original text?!? as in did i read the whole thing?... yes... But I refuse to do mental gymnastics in order to justify barbaric logic to make it moral. I find that to be intellectual bankruptcy to do so.
everyone wants to scream context... but do this next time you get arrested or get a speeding ticket tell the judge he is taking the law out of context and see if you can get out of it.
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RE: Should people learn about other religions?
February 26, 2010 at 1:10 pm
I whole-heartedly approve of looking into other religions, other faiths, other people's ideas about the world, although making it mandatory in schools is a big no-no. Optional? Sure. Required? HELL NO. I love studying religions and faiths, and making the connections that all are essentially saying the same thing.
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