My privilege as a straight, white, cisgender, middle class thin male

[Dystopia]

If we're going this way, they I'll happily say I'd prefer living in a green rural area with lots of little houses and many trees.

However, there's the downside that people in those areas are usually very conservative, but I'm sure I can pass that.

[paulpablo]

Sure, of course. However those things listed are still more about being comfortable than being happy. I'd much rather live in the ghetto than in suburbia because it's just not as boring. This view also part of what I would call liberal racism. Where liberal white people just assume that other cultures and people would be better off if they had been born white and western without even bothering to ask them. What about the hispanic sense of family or black sense of struggle. These things have huge value, value probably beyond just being rich and comfortable.

This is actually an interesting point, but I'd like if you could explain better why it is more interesting.

Additionally, I don't want anyone else to be born white, I want everyone to have give or take equal opportunities of social success and acceptance. In fact, some physical diversity makes the world interesting.

In England where I live I'd much rather live in a suburb than in a ghetto.
Slum areas are romanticized, and are supposed to have character but I live in a pretty bad area, Muslim pakistanis are in the majority so I suppose it's in the realm of being an English version of a ghetto.

In one way it is interesting to see kidnappings, burglars, heroin addicts, beatings and riots happening in front of you, on the other hand it's bad news dealing with sky high car insurance, being surrounded by very non available Muslim girls, being chased by stray pit bulls (admittedly an adrenaline rush but could have ended badly) and racial abuse sometimes.
There's actually a Romanian family in the area that just ask you for food, I think they live in a house but they don't speak English well except to say "Food please boss, give food."

The area I'm in isn't bad just because of the minority groups here, my friends live in places where mainly white people live which are worse, but I do have a bit of envy for people who live in peace, in a nice suburbian house, white picket fence, attractive non veiled females in the vicinity.

Additionally, I don't think these suburbs are as dull as people stereotypically think, It's not like if someone's playing a sport an old white man is going to come out and say "Hey stop that ethnic minority activity this instant."
My friend lives in a pretty nice suburb and his house is next to the local football stadium, which is next to quite a few fields dedicated to sports.

anyway like I said I would move out of where I live in an instant to live in a suburb.

[CapnAwesome]

OK I'm not being clear, sorry about that. It could be the wine.

I'm just trying to say that White Privilege is not at all about white suburbia. I'm living in the mountains in a place that I know damned good-and-well the bank would not have been so pleased to let me buy if I wasn't an educated white boy, capable of doing a decent impression of middle-class.

I agree that white bread and mayo with a picket fence and 2.3 kids is about as exciting as watching paint dry. But that's only a tiny slice of the picture.

I disagree that it's a tiny slice of the picture. It's a huge part of the cake. What you are referring to is the exception to the norm. That is in fact what people are talking about when they talk about privilege. Of course people can abandon their middle class privileged lifestyle to live in the mountains or be a hippy. That's a result of abandoning privilege, not a byproduct of it.

[Regina]

This is actually an interesting point, but I'd like if you could explain better why it is more interesting.

Additionally, I don't want anyone else to be born white, I want everyone to have give or take equal opportunities of social success and acceptance. In fact, some physical diversity makes the world interesting.

In England where I live I'd much rather live in a suburb than in a ghetto.
Slum areas are romanticized, and are supposed to have character but I live in a pretty bad area, Muslim pakistanis are in the majority so I suppose it's in the realm of being an English version of a ghetto.

In one way it is interesting to see kidnappings, burglars, heroin addicts, beatings and riots happening in front of you, on the other hand it's bad news dealing with sky high car insurance, being surrounded by very non available Muslim girls, being chased by stray pit bulls (admittedly an adrenaline rush but could have ended badly) and racial abuse sometimes.
There's actually a Romanian family in the area that just ask you for food, I think they live in a house but they don't speak English well except to say "Food please boss, give food."

The area I'm in isn't bad just because of the minority groups here, my friends live in places where mainly white people live which are worse, but I do have a bit of envy for people who live in peace, in a nice suburbian house, white picket fence, attractive non veiled females in the vicinity.

Some suburbs are sketchy though. Like I say, the area I grew up in wasn't that safe and was still very working class. It's also one of the most "white" areas in my city - 95+%. We still had issues with Pitbull dogs, muggings, racial tension wherever there were people from other races (mostly racism came from the white people though).

suburbs aren't totally safe or totally "middle class" either, I think this is a misconception. My area growing up wasn't totally safe, it was still very working class with some sketchy characters lurking around. Might as well take the inner-city and get the full package.

This might just be in the UK though, I can't speak for America.

[Davka]

OK I'm not being clear, sorry about that. It could be the wine.

I'm just trying to say that White Privilege is not at all about white suburbia. I'm living in the mountains in a place that I know damned good-and-well the bank would not have been so pleased to let me buy if I wasn't an educated white boy, capable of doing a decent impression of middle-class.

I agree that white bread and mayo with a picket fence and 2.3 kids is about as exciting as watching paint dry. But that's only a tiny slice of the picture.

I disagree that it's a tiny slice of the picture. It's a huge part of the cake. What you are referring to is the exception to the norm. That is in fact what people are talking about when they talk about privilege. Of course people can abandon their middle class privileged lifestyle to live in the mountains or be a hippy. That's a result of abandoning privilege, not a byproduct of it.

I think it's what, 75% of Americans living in cities now? So yeah, there's flyover country and the 'burbs, but privilege gets you a fuckload of perks in the city too - like not being shadowed by security when you go shopping, or making it easy to flag down a taxi, or not having to deal with stop-and-frisk.

Middle class whites don't all live in the suburbs.