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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 9:34 pm
(December 30, 2014 at 9:15 pm)subsecret Wrote: (December 30, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Spooky Wrote: 1. The magnitude of the universe and how it relates to my own insignificance is not lost on me.
2. To hell with virgins, I want women who know what they are doing.
3. I have personally told brass and a judge to stick it up their ass. Your argument is invalid.
4. I know this is the internet. I also know I enlisted at 17, deployed twice, and can prove it. Stick it up your ass.
5. Your god doesn't exist. Fuck him.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
But isn't it weird the amount of animosity toward this fabricated pure intelligent energy. You would think you were personally hurt by him.
Talk to me bro, especially in a thread where the context is 'what will it take to convert you'. I'm confused.
Anyway i'm not trying to convert you through persuasive words of men's wisdom. But If you really want to genuinely talk about personal proof and evidence to you, we can talk, peacefully.
I have personally seen the death and destruction your god has caused. Millions have lost their lives in the name of god. It's not a weird amount of animosity.
I'm not your bro.
I have yet to see a theist on this forum present anything resembling proof. And forgive me for earlier, you struck a nerve. I'll be nicer now that painkillers have kicked it.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 9:38 pm
(December 30, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Spooky Wrote: (December 30, 2014 at 9:15 pm)subsecret Wrote: Fair enough. Fair enough.
But isn't it weird the amount of animosity toward this fabricated pure intelligent energy. You would think you were personally hurt by him.
Talk to me bro, especially in a thread where the context is 'what will it take to convert you'. I'm confused.
Anyway i'm not trying to convert you through persuasive words of men's wisdom. But If you really want to genuinely talk about personal proof and evidence to you, we can talk, peacefully.
I have personally seen the death and destruction your god has caused. Millions have lost their lives in the name of god. It's not a weird amount of animosity.
I'm not your bro.
I have yet to see a theist on this forum present anything resembling proof. And forgive me for earlier, you struck a nerve. I'll be nicer now that painkillers have kicked it.
Because the Abrahamic god is the one ill never ever want to worship.... that god and ill agree with you is the one who pretty much inspired the worst part of humanity to do horrible acts in his name.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm
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(December 30, 2014 at 8:39 pm)subsecret Wrote: let me ask you this and many others. From the closet star, I envision the earth to look like a dot on a piece of paper and out of that dot is a spec of dust which represents you. You being that spec of dust if we are to believe the concept of a God is true for a moments time.
Making demands such as "god if i'm to believe you are real, i want to have all your powers for a day" or "i want 100 million dollars" or i want "1 million virgins" is comical at best. Then by the same token, expecting that god would care one whit about any of us, let alone temporarily kill himself to show how much he cared, is even more comical.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 9:51 pm
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(December 30, 2014 at 9:20 pm)abaris Wrote: Wisdom and believing in something that can't be proven are kind of mutual excluxive. And personal proof and evidence don't exist, since they are, well, personal. It's just like the guy claiming his camera go broken, just when this giant UFO was hovering over him.
"personal proof and evidence to you"
keyword: "to you"
not some guys or mines, but yours.
i guess i used the wrong term.
Maybe rather your personal experience.
Which don't mean much to anyone one else but you.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 9:59 pm
(December 30, 2014 at 9:51 pm)subsecret Wrote: (December 30, 2014 at 9:20 pm)abaris Wrote: Wisdom and believing in something that can't be proven are kind of mutual excluxive. And personal proof and evidence don't exist, since they are, well, personal. It's just like the guy claiming his camera go broken, just when this giant UFO was hovering over him.
"personal proof and evidence to you"
keyword: "to you"
not some guys or mines, but yours.
i guess i used the wrong term.
Maybe rather your personal experience.
Which don't mean much to anyone one else but you.
Universal evidence would be better instead of personal evidence. Personal evidence can be looked at with scrutiny like Mormonism is.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 10:00 pm
(December 30, 2014 at 8:57 pm)subsecret Wrote: (December 30, 2014 at 8:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are content without believing in Allah. You are content without believing in Vishnu. So yea, I am content without believing in your fictional god too. I simply reject one more sky hero claim than you do.
what's up with the 'sky ___' God doesn't reside in the sky, space, etc.
Interesting concept of God there though.
Anyway i certainly don't debate Muslims by reading up and quoting from websites of badly taken out of context and misinterpreted text
So I could say "hahhaha here look at this " as some (or may i say all) atheist do.
I wonder if anyone have tried going through their English classes by knowingly butchering their given literature the same way.
Pretty sure the letter "F" will be waiting for them.
Are you Jewish? You cant type out "sky hero" so you type out "sky___"? Like "G_D"?
Yea, sky hero, dirt daddy, cosmic security guy, magic mall cop......same crap. What ever you call your super hero, still fictional.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 30, 2014 at 11:46 pm
@OP
Profound brain damage.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 31, 2014 at 12:00 am
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Ditto
(December 29, 2014 at 11:43 am)Spooky Wrote: ... god himself descending from heaven in front of you Even that would not do it, because then I would know for sure I had brain damage.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 31, 2014 at 7:48 am
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1) Universal acceptance of said god among all of us.
2) A logical reason from said god why all suffering has happened.
3) A logical reason why said god kept himself hidden in the technological age.
4) Empirical evidence of any kind that points toward a god or intelligent design.
5) A purple dragon smoking  and flying out of my ass.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
December 31, 2014 at 7:54 am
Some evidence would be nice.
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