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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
There are different types of feminism, there are those who simply want equality and are just taking a position they feel is equal, and there are those[mostly the only people we see] who think men should somehow pay for the inequality that took place for so many years, and want to see them thrown in zoos.
In short:
The Feminists who are simply trying to bring equality are perfectly fine
But most of the time we see Feminism as people who imply that women are better than men.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
(November 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: That must be why you are all projecting your feelings onto me, because I don't think that I'm oppressed at all. It seems we've made an interesting discovery about the psychology of feminists 
Oh dear. First you project and then you project our recognition of your projection back on us. How fucking deep-seated denial can you get?
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 8:57 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2015 at 9:04 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 18, 2015 at 8:37 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: If a theist made the claims about "they're not realm X", would you not call No True Scotsman?
Only if they'd changed the original definition when their bullshit was called out:
Wiki Wrote:No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by , without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing")
Actually I was already prepared for this response. The NTS fallacy is commonly misunderstood. If the correct definition is being used, saying those that merely label themselves as such but in fact don't fall into the definition at all are "not true X" is not a fallacy at all. It is only when the original definition is changed and modified as an ad-hoc attempt to escape being refuted that the fallacy applies.
Someone can claim to be a theist as much as they want, but if they don't actually believe in God saying they are not a true theist in and of itself is not a fallacy. Likewise someone can claim to be a feminist as much as they want but if they actually think that man-hating is what feminism is about then they are simply mistaken.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 8:57 pm
(November 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: There are different types of feminism, there are those who simply want equality and are just taking a position they feel is equal, and there are those[mostly the only people we see] who think men should somehow pay for the inequality that took place for so many years, and want to see them thrown in zoos.
In short:
The Feminists who are simply trying to bring equality are perfectly fine
But most of the time we see Feminism as people who imply that women are better than men.
We've tried explaining that.
Apparently, it's confusing.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 8:57 pm
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(November 18, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Losty Wrote: (November 18, 2015 at 8:46 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: Ignoring that first part. I'm not saying you called me a misogynist. You said I accused you of man hating. There must have been a misunderstanding.
It wasn't a misunderstanding you defined feminism as a long list of things including being against equal rights for men and laughing at men who are physically abused. I simply summed it up as man hating.
If men did this, they would be called jeffery dahmer. Ignore the annotations, I'm linking this for the footage of the video.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm
So why are you still going on with it instead of presenting a valid argument with facts and evidence?
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm
I just did.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 9:02 pm
Interesting how most of us, strangers IRL, can mostly get along on *the internet*, on this website when we're all such dicks. It must be that the entire community is a bunch of assholes because this guy is SO nice, he's willing to point out how horrible we are. It couldn't possibly be that he, the really nice guy who deserves everyone's respect, is actually the dick. No way.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 9:02 pm
(November 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm)Losty Wrote: So why are you still going on with it instead of presenting a valid argument with facts and evidence?
*Creationist mentality*
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm
(November 18, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Beccs Wrote: (November 18, 2015 at 9:01 pm)Losty Wrote: So why are you still going on with it instead of presenting a valid argument with facts and evidence?
*Creationist mentality*
I think you missed my post where I linked clear evidence of the double standards, honey 
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