(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:But you can't do that can you? You are limited at least by your income and station in life arent you? how is this true freedom? one could easily conclude your a slave to your station in life. So sure if you want to say you have the freedom to do whatever you want with in your soceitial station in life, I agree. If you want to pretend you have real freedom I'd tell you to grow up.(January 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm)Drich Wrote: Pass to what?
What option do you think you have?
To give absolutely zero regard to what your or anyone else's fairy tales say, and live my life how I see fit.
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Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
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  (January 5, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: To give absolutely zero regard to what your or anyone else's fairy tales say, and live my life how I see fit.But you can't do that can you? You are limited at least by your income and station in life arent you? how is this true freedom? one could easily conclude your a slave to your station in life. So sure if you want to say you have the freedom to do whatever you want with in your soceitial station in life, I agree. If you want to pretend you have real freedom I'd tell you to grow up. Which is why I never even mentioned "true freedom" or whatever the hell that this, so don't imply that I did. I try to live my life in a manner that I believe is practical, fulfilling, and moral. No fairy tales or skygods or myths required. So no, I'll pass on the offer to be a slave, as raucously fun as that sounds. I'll live my life my own way, thanks.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
January 5, 2015 at 5:29 pm
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(January 5, 2015 at 5:10 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:(January 5, 2015 at 4:41 pm)Drich Wrote: God is looking for servants/slaves, and so is satan. That is why I said 'free will' is a joke. It is a greek construct and not one made orginally in the bible. I am take my ques from the bible only. I do assoceiate myself with several different 'denominations' as they strive to do the same. The harvest bible Chapel out of the Chicago area is one I most identify with. That said, know that the bible does not say God is 'All Loving.' John 3:16 says that God's Love is conditional. Omni-benevolence is a catholic doctrine first adopted/mandated in the 1870's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibenevolence Quite sometime after the bible was written. (January 5, 2015 at 5:16 pm)abaris Wrote:(January 5, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Drich Wrote: God wants Slaves servants. Christ said as a Slave to God your work is easy and burden is light. We are a slave to sin and the master of sin in this life, which leads to the second death in the next life. So, both.  (January 5, 2015 at 5:29 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 5, 2015 at 5:10 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: What brand of christian are you? I have never in my life heard this from another christian. You enjoy being gods slave now and don't write back.
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Dyres...
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson (January 5, 2015 at 5:41 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Dyres... i won't do it because the moron would use circular logic and run in circles.
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