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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 3:18 am
(January 9, 2015 at 1:59 am)Surgenator Wrote: (January 9, 2015 at 1:49 am)Chili Wrote: Huh? Jesus was never a person in history. The Gospels just show his persona role-play as the second Adam for Joseph of whom this story is told. And so, for Joseph this infancy was real, and that is the deep structure theme to understand.
Baby Jesus is for children much like those 72 virgins are for Muslim boys.
So God didn't sacrifice himself onto himself so he can forgive the offspring of our long dead ancestor? So much for original sin.
Huh? Original sin is to be rational and use our conscious mind. That is when we left Eden as knowing good from bad and soon became thinkers. That is all it was, and is the best thing that happened to us.
These are just stories to make is so you can return to your right brain again and then first know who you are.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 3:24 am
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I called it ages ago that this is Brucer/free again. It's bad form to continue trolling after you've been spotted. Also, it wasn't funny the first time.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 3:25 am
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(January 9, 2015 at 2:31 am)IATIA Wrote: Is catholicism turning into some bizarre kool-aid drinking cult? This is two catholics in a row with nonsensical ideas. (relatively speaking of course)
(January 9, 2015 at 1:49 am)Chili Wrote: Jesus was never a person in history. The Gospels just show his persona role-play as the second Adam for Joseph of whom this story is told. And so, for Joseph this infancy was real, and that is the deep structure theme to understand. I tried, but I could not leave this alone.
OK. We have no jesus, Joseph only thought he had a kid from his dead or not live wife. So..., Who was running round preaching and pretending to be jesus? Joseph? Was Joseph hung on the cross or was the cross imaginary too?
Jesus is the ego awareness, the persona that is an illusion right from the start, and the second Adam that we call Jesus is the same one, but after the first step of enlightenment and did a 180 degree turn that we call metanoia and goes back to Eden again on his own. That is what the gospels are all about.
So it was the ego consciousness that was said to be nailed on the cross which is all allegory to show that in heaven our senses are no longer needed and therefore are pierced. No sickness in heaven, remember? and no pain.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 9:40 am
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Original sin, Chili, was to disobey. Nothing more, nothing less. The stain of that action - the miasma (keep in mind that jews had a different view of the entire episode than christians do..as descendants of a hellenized tradition) generated by this act has since followed spawning misery - as miasma is wont to do in these pagan ditties.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 9:42 am
Someone just boot Chili already, he/she's just spouting random words stitched together with vague, incorrect references to the Catholic church. Any sort of discussion, honest or otherwise, is impossible.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 10:30 am
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(January 9, 2015 at 9:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Someone just boot Chili already, he/she's just spouting random words stitched together with vague, incorrect references to the Catholic church. Any sort of discussion, honest or otherwise, is impossible.
It is very acceptable and normal in America to stand united and hate a Catholic. Don't worry, I know all about it.
Catholicism is a tradition like Judaism and they have their own 'fiddler on the roof' who tells them when it is time to spin their own cocoon.
The problem in America is that they are hunted, and as soon as they are even close to this an evangelist will fuck him in the head and that is what makes Billy Graham your greatest of all.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 10:31 am
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I'm a former catholic and now an atheist, you unbelievable douche canoe. Billy Graham can suck the Pope's dick for all I care.
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 10:32 am
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(January 9, 2015 at 9:40 am)Rhythm Wrote: Original sin, Chili, was to disobey. Nothing more, nothing less. The stain of that action - the miasma (keep in mind that jews had a different view of the entire episode than christians do..as descendants of a hellenized tradition) generated by this act has since followed spawning misery - as miasma is wont to do in these pagan ditties.
Sure, if ignorance is trump you will always win. Christians are the scum of the earth.
(January 9, 2015 at 10:31 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'm a former catholic and now an atheist, you unbelievable douche canoe. Billy Graham can suck the Pope's dick for all I care.
I understand that you left them both, and good for you. No problem.
All the pope is needed for is for Catholics to come full circle in. Many or most Catholics know less about the pope than protestants do. They just don't care about religion, and why would they? You do not have to know anything to be Catholic and just do what Catholics do.
And why not? No pages to flip, nothing to learn and no righteousness to seek. Just do as you like and go to church if you feel like it, and otherwise not. Who cares? Nobody cares!
That is my kind of Catholic and suits me just right. And Pope who? I forgot his name, sorry, but I still can hear Billy Graham say that he flew over S. Africa in a small plane do drop salvation messages over the villages and saved thousands of people that way.
(January 9, 2015 at 9:40 am)Rhythm Wrote: Original sin, Chili, was to disobey. Nothing more, nothing less. The stain of that action - the miasma (keep in mind that jews had a different view of the entire episode than christians do..as descendants of a hellenized tradition) generated by this act has since followed spawning misery - as miasma is wont to do in these pagan ditties.
Christians always were the dumbest people of all. To think that if you tell your neighbor about Jesus you go to heaven when you die. This is true even if he doesn't tells this same story to his neighbor, but if he does and we all do, Jesus will come back when everybody in the entire has been told and therefore there is a reason to jump from joy when we do, so he will come back before we all die.
Such idiots and this is called the greatest story ever told. And you know what? They still call it the norm in America today, and from here, if the pope does not agree with that he is the most hated of all. The pope really does not care what Christians do, but just do not keep bombing the wrong countries again and again (and go broke while doing that, and all of this so their Jesus will come back? Hint: read the "Seven Mountain Mandate" on this with 1.3 billion just on advisory spend).
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 12:31 pm
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Hey I just baptised myself Catholic for 5 minutes, then excommunicated myself all over the bathroom floor. What does that make me now? I'm confused. Can I rebaptise later on before dinner?
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RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 12:44 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 12:31 pm)robvalue Wrote: Hey I just baptised myself Catholic for 5 minutes, then excommunicated myself all over the bathroom floor. What does that make me now? I'm confused. Can I rebaptise later on before dinner?
Oh heck you can baptize your neighbor, and his neighbor too, but please not the priest because he already is baptized but he would do you if you let him. Just so you know.
I know that lots of people have a hard-on for him, and for the pope even, and that is why he needs our protection or they will fuck him to death.
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