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Another won battle for pro-choice people
#11
RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
(January 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(January 3, 2015 at 12:11 pm)JuliaL Wrote: They don't notice.

If you were dead....would you notice it? I'd be sad if some was given the legal authority to kill you.

Except that in the vast majority of abortions, there aren't brainwaves happening in the fetus.

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#12
RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
Same is true of the vast majority of abortion protesters.
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#13
RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
(January 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(January 3, 2015 at 12:11 pm)JuliaL Wrote: They don't notice.

If you were dead....would you notice it? I'd be sad if some was given the legal authority to kill you.

I would feel sad if you were murdered also Heywood, or at least as sad as I would feel for any other acquaintance's death. You have a brain that feels fear and pain. If you became a vegetable and couldn't form a thought or experience any pain or pleasure, I would think it was a merciful act to let you die peacefully.
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RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
(January 3, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(January 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Heywood Wrote: If you were dead....would you notice it? I'd be sad if some was given the legal authority to kill you.

They aren't conscious to be able to notice it before they were aborted, you obtuse loon. Dodgy

Sorry dummy, since you can't notice something when you are dead, you can't notice being dead before you are dead.
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#15
RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
Quote:I would feel sad if you were murdered also Heywood

I think I could adjust!
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#16
RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
(January 6, 2015 at 11:16 am)Heywood Wrote:
(January 3, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Esquilax Wrote: They aren't conscious to be able to notice it before they were aborted, you obtuse loon. Dodgy

Sorry dummy, since you can't notice something when you are dead, you can't notice being dead before you are dead.

You can notice something before you're dead if the state you were in prior to death was conscious life, which fetuses are not.

But then, I suspect this is another one of those times where you're trying to crow over some sophistic word choice, rather than actually follow the thread of the argument. Rolleyes
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#17
RE: Another won battle for pro-choice people
(January 6, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(January 6, 2015 at 11:16 am)Heywood Wrote: Sorry dummy, since you can't notice something when you are dead, you can't notice being dead before you are dead.

You can notice something before you're dead if the state you were in prior to death was conscious life, which fetuses are not.

But then, I suspect this is another one of those times where you're trying to crow over some sophistic word choice, rather than actually follow the thread of the argument. Rolleyes

Then I would say to JuliaL, "I'd be sad if someone chopped you up into little pieces while you were under general anesthesia".

Whether or not a human being notices something or not doesn't determine if they've been morally wronged or not.

The "notice" element isn't important at all.
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