Is Islam the religion of peace.....pffft....NO

[Brian37]

I mean you can say anything in my presence because it IS your forum after all. I don't get offended by things anyone says about jesus or god. I'm sure most of you guys are good whether you believe or don't believe.

I was only pissed because someone was comparing Christianity to violent islam. Maybe that's what made me seem angry.
But I'm sorry

Not sure who was calling Christianity violent, could have been me saying that. but without a "quote" kinda hard to discern who said what.

Now instead of getting pissed about someone telling you something you are not used to hearing, why don't you try to understand why we say that.

All the books of Abraham, Hebrew, Islam and Christianity, are full of depictions of violence based on the wishes or actions of that God even if he does not do it himself.

The violent depictions were a reflection of social norms of even polytheism back then. Back then your life depended on supporting the tribe. So the god was reflected as a character just like the kinds feudal society followed back then. Depicted as the hero who saved the day and vanquished the enemy. Humans back then falsely equated fortune as coming from divinity.

And again, Christianity became civil because there were enough people who got tired of the brutality, who cherry picked and watered down the book to justify civility.

But even today in Africa you have "The Lord's Resistance Army". Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. The aborton Dr killers are Chrisitan.

Westboro Baptist Church. And even preachers advocating physical violence

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/09/...ans-video/

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Again the book is not Keeping more of the nuts above listed from acting out in violence, our common law is minimizing their ability to act out in violence. But these Christians are getting there morality from the same religion you do, like it or not.

[Mudhammam]

There is a difference between what morality a religion ( a ) explicitly instructs its common adherents to practice, ( b ) endorses in the mythos of its gods or heroes, and ( c ) inspires as a natural outgrowth of the irrationality imbedded in its epistemology. All three of the Abrahamic religions contain morally objectionable tenets in the sense of ( b ) and ( c ), but equating them on ( a ) is ignorant. For example, from most heinous to most benign in the sense of ( b ) I would have to rank them: Christianity, Judaism, and Islam; in the sense of ( a ), just the opposite.

[Brian37]

Again we can argue over the big three, but it still remains that all religions are nothing but humans gap filling to make excuses to form groups and set up social pecking orders.

The important thing to do, isn't forcing religion out of existence, but getting more humans to accept that those are personal likes and should be less important than insisting on civility. Use government to protect pluralism yes, but only to the extent of rights, claims themselves however, do not deserve rights, humans are not claims, claims are what humans make.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Forget it. I'm done debating here. Keep mocking faiths for whatever reasons you feel on how they destroyed or keep destroying the world. I'm sure you're all great guys but waaay too rigid and quite frankly I'd find better arguments in a high school.

Hope you guys do great things with your hatred of religion. May we see the enlightened generation of practical thinkers in the future.

And if it doesn't happen, I hope you always have the peace you claimed to get mocking and, in your words "scrutinizing" religions.

You'd probably get a better reception if you didn't act like you were bringing the tablets down the mountain. Maybe if you honed your presentation and your points so that they were cogent rather than condescending you'd face a friendlier audience.

Just a thought.

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Don't even get me started on the number of people Stalin or chairman Mao killed. I expect educated people as yourselves to know that the number of people killed during these regimes exceeds the people killed during the Crusades
/ witch hunts.

Except that unlike those murders, the ones committed by Mao and Stalin were not done in the name of atheism, but rather, to tighten their grip on power and protect it from their fervid imaginings.

Also, you seem to have forgotten about the 30 Years' War, which greatly ups the number of deaths attributable directly to worshiping the Prince of Peace -- there's a little more irony for you -- by perhaps as many as ten million dead. If we include deaths from other religions (which would be appropriate in terms of categorical equivalence) then you're going to see millions more dead attributable to blind faith.