Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo

[Minimalist]

Peace? You have concocted a "War" then. You're no different from those towel-begarbed motherfuckers.

Criticism of islam is fair game. I already criticize xtians and jews and I won't stop now when it is getting easy.

But I'll be damned if I'm going to follow a goose-stepping moron, either. That's a bridge too far. And if you cannot see the difference then fuck you.

[dyresand]

Peace? You have concocted a "War" then. You're no different from those towel-begarbed motherfuckers.

Criticism of islam is fair game. I already criticize xtians and jews and I won't stop now when it is getting easy.

But I'll be damned if I'm going to follow a goose-stepping moron, either. That's a bridge too far. And if you cannot see the difference then fuck you.

I wish we had to deal with barbarians instead of Islamist....

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm honestly worried that he got hacked or something. This isn't out of left field as much as out of left field from a couple stadiums down the road.

No, he's shown his colors since I've started posting here, and this is par for the course, albeit with more insults than normal.

[mralstoner]

Eloi, all of you. Can't act to save yourselves.

[Thumpalumpacus]

If you don't have a viable solution, shut up and let the adults carry the conversation. The point you don't get is that our policies should be aimed at prying away the moderate support from the fanatical minority, and then jailing the fanatics as we catch them.

Get on a plane and fly to Pakistan, you'll feel right at home there, always seeking that mythical moderate Muslim to finally stand up to the fundamentalists. Fatalistic ambulance chasing, that's all that ever is. Bomb scene after bloody bomb scene, followed by moronic appeals to moderate Muslims that never amount to shit. Book your ticket now. Go!

Unlike you, I've actually lived in Muslim countries, for five years, and know a little about this topic ... from first-hand experience, as well, as opposed to being spoonfed horseshit as is obviously the case with you. Given that, I shall repeat what I said earlier: your prescription would be decisively counterproductive, and is the result of a febrile imagination. Or, as I wrote in a song a few years back, "Simple minds fabricate complex solutions". Just because the idea is emotionally appealing to you and your ilk, it doesn't follow that it is practical, or will work as advertised. You, with your cartoonish knowledge of Muslim culture, would clearly court decisive defeat at the hands of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

[Ryantology]

All I advocated was giving Western Muslims their own land so we can leave each other alone. It's not a concentration camp, it's an automonous region, with some economic and travel sanctions.

Like I said, you appear to have thought about this in the span of a commercial break. I mean, seriously.

There are 6.67 million Muslims in the United States. That is more than 2% of our total population. I want you think about those numbers really hard. I want them to take root, so that it sinks in just how fucking idiotic your idea is.

That's more than the population of Massachusetts. A state with only American Muslims would rank 14th in population. Let's just ignore the fact that any attempt to herd almost 7 million people you fear because of their violence is probably going to provoke, yunno, violence.

I mean, we're deep into fantasy land.

Where do you put them? Where do you find the land to hold this many people? What do you do with the people who already live there? You would have to use American territory for this purpose, and it would either have to be in Alaska or in the continental United States because of there being almost 7 million people. You would have to stick them all on this enormous reserve, and according to you, this region would be autonomous. You would put all these people in some kind of walled-off preserve right here on American soil (which would have tons of people who would have to be displaced), which is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

7 million people, all of whom now have all the justification they could ever want to become actively hostile to the United States.

In our backyard.

That makes the Versailles Treaty look like a work of genius.

And when it starts the violence, that's when fascists like you will tell us that our only hope to survive Islamic fundamentalism is a campaign of Muslim extermination. A society that is not willing to obsorb a few percent casualties in order to preserve some value beyond immediate security is not worth preserving at all and is no loss, and not to be regreted, if defeated and absorbed by another.

Seriously, fuck off. You're revolting.



I can only assume this is a Freudian slip.

[pocaracas]

So, in that context, is it a good idea for Mark Steyn to antagonise Mohammedans by demanding that all newspapers show the cartoons?

Curious... just yesterday, I had this kind of idea.... i wouldn't go as far as "demanding", though... people and companies are free to do as they wish.

Nevertheless, it would possibly be the best course of action if all newspapers, at least in Europe, would, from now on, publish new daily satirical cartoons aimed specifically at muslims, with particular emphasis on extremists/fundamentalists/jihadists.
Even more, they should all publish the same cartoon, at the same time with some disclaimer like "this cartoon is being published in ALL of today's newspapers in ALL of Europe [Civilized World?]".
Repeat for all online news sites, tv news... anything that can get images across!
Flood them with satire until they become desensitized.

And the few who insist on attacking newspaper buildings [aka, going against the law] should be hunted down and brought to the justice system... jail-time among a "christian" inmate population would probably do wonders on those idiots.

Fear of terrorism is a slippery slope that should be avoided at all cost!
And building such a wall equates to saying "we fear you, so we lock you in there".

[MitchBenn]

If we're going to build concentration camps for Muslims, and that is exactly what you're suggesting, let's throw all of our right-wing xenophobic terrorists in with them. Especially since they are the reason we have armed Muslim terrorists antagonizing the West in the first place.

Typical fucking left-liberal moron. A wall is a wall, it's not a concentration camp. Yes, it curbs their freedoms, that's the whole point. But we're not gassing, starving or persecuting anyone.

It's people like you, who cry at tough decisions, who will consign the West to permanent, never-ending massacres just like in Paris. You're pathetic, incompetent, self-hating losers who can't make adult decisions. Fuck you juvenile morons.

In hindsight, the West is full of dickeads like Ryantology, so we're going to need a third solution. And that's for all the sane people to move to safe parts of the West, and the demented fuckers like Ryan can live with his Muslim friends... if they decide to let him live, that is.

Absolutely!

The only way to preserve justice and freedom is to lock up innocent people!

Asshole.

[jesus_wept]

And the few who insist on attacking newspaper buildings [aka, going against the law] should be hunted down and brought to the justice system... jail-time among a "christian" inmate population would probably do wonders on those idiots.

The trouble is our prisons already have loads of Muslims in them so they'd probably be given a hero's welcome by all the other extremists and Muslim gangs in there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...22237.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8558590.stm

[pocaracas]

And the few who insist on attacking newspaper buildings [aka, going against the law] should be hunted down and brought to the justice system... jail-time among a "christian" inmate population would probably do wonders on those idiots.

The trouble is our prisons already have loads of Muslims in them so they'd probably be given a hero's welcome by all the other extremists and Muslim gangs in there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...22237.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8558590.stm

Oh well.... that's an extra concern...
I guess we are going in the direction that mralstoner suggests...