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RE: The Origins of the Universe
February 28, 2022 at 1:56 am
A seven year old necropost. Is that some sort of record?
(February 26, 2022 at 10:19 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: https://www.science.org/content/article/...%20visible.
Quote : "the universe was like a smoke-filled chamber from which light could not escape"
This is smoke:
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This is plasma:
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If you can't tell the difference then smoking is going to be a lot more hazardous to your health than we had imagined.
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
February 28, 2022 at 5:20 pm
I guess the sun is made of smoke.....
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
February 28, 2022 at 6:23 pm
The universe started when Kieth Richards had some bad refried beans after a week long heroin bender. He had some record breaking gas.
True story!
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 1, 2022 at 5:23 am
Does the universe need an origin or can we include the thing(s) it came from as also part of the universe?
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.
Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.
Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get,
What is terrible is easy to endure
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm)king krish Wrote: Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke...
[Noble Quran 41:11]
Look closer to the heaven surrounding the earth. We call it the 'sky'. Notice the clouds? What are they?
I guess in that verse, smoke was meant to be the precursor for the clouds in the sky.
Anyway, it helps to have a look at the various translations of the verse here. Not seeing anything miraculous here. It's part of a story, not a scientific finding.
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 11, 2022 at 6:41 pm
(March 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: (January 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm)king krish Wrote: Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke...
[Noble Quran 41:11]
Look closer to the heaven surrounding the earth. We call it the 'sky'. Notice the clouds? What are they?
I guess in that verse, smoke was meant to be the precursor for the clouds in the sky.
Anyway, it helps to have a look at the various translations of the verse here. Not seeing anything miraculous here. It's part of a story, not a scientific finding.
This verse and many other agree with modern science, there is no point in bickering about this fact. A skeptic can of course bring other interpretations/translations and claim there is no miracle, but this is clearly disingenuous.
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 11, 2022 at 7:22 pm
(March 11, 2022 at 6:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (March 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: I guess in that verse, smoke was meant to be the precursor for the clouds in the sky.
Anyway, it helps to have a look at the various translations of the verse here. Not seeing anything miraculous here. It's part of a story, not a scientific finding.
This verse and many other agree with modern science, there is no point in bickering about this fact. A skeptic can of course bring other interpretations/translations and claim there is no miracle, but this is clearly disingenuous.
and if anyone knows about being disingenuous, It's you.
May FSM unharden your heart.
RAmen
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Conservative trigger warning.
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 11, 2022 at 8:06 pm
(March 11, 2022 at 6:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (March 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: I guess in that verse, smoke was meant to be the precursor for the clouds in the sky.
Anyway, it helps to have a look at the various translations of the verse here. Not seeing anything miraculous here. It's part of a story, not a scientific finding.
This verse and many other agree with modern science, there is no point in bickering about this fact. A skeptic can of course bring other interpretations/translations and claim there is no miracle, but this is clearly disingenuous.
This verse and many others *disagree* with modern science. There is no point in bickering about this fact. A believer can, of course, bring other interpretations/translations and claim there is a miracle, but this is clearly disingenuous.
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 12, 2022 at 1:30 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2022 at 1:31 am by Peebothuhlu.)
At work.
I'm sick of a these post hock Quran verses being trotted out all the time
When are they going to present some new, ground breaking Quran hypotheses for people to test?
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
March 12, 2022 at 5:21 am
Just imagine. Maybe the reason these fairy tales get it wrong isn't because they don't come from gods - but because gods don't know how they managed to do what they did.
Or so the faithful would have us believe...apparently.
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