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China does not exist
#51
RE: China does not exist
I think the burdon of proof lies with Watson with this one.
He is making the extraordinary claim that we know not truly of the existance of China.
Extradinary claims require extradinary proof.
I'd like him to prove the non-existance of the very existing China to my satisfaction.
I think the challenge is almost equal to the one he has of convincing me of the exixstance of his beloved sky dictator.



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#52
RE: China does not exist
The burden of proof lies on the claimant unless the claim has already met such a burden of proof. What Watson was challenging was whether the claim that China exists has met the burden of proof. Essentially, it was a cryptic argument for agnosticism.

There isn't any proof that China exists, nor for anything for that matter. This is why the question of "what is knowledge" is so well discussed in philosophy.
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#53
RE: China does not exist
Watson Wrote:Oh, and Saerules, I'm quite interested- why do you disagree that nothing can be new? It isn't a dig at what you said, I'm just curious to hear some food for thought.

To summarize in a few words:

The energy within the universe is the same energy that has been around since it "began" (if it indeed did begin). However... nihilism, thus existentialism. As we continue define (or modify our definitions) for "things"... it becomes clear that we define new things quite often. Hence, plenty of things can be new... but the energy that "makes them up" almost certainly is not.
Adrian Wrote:This is why the question of "what is knowledge" is so well discussed in philosophy.

Well discussed as in debated...?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#54
RE: China does not exist
(March 1, 2010 at 8:01 pm)Watson Wrote: Anyway, to cover the entire spectrum, then, I propose a challenge. Prove to me that China exists. I dare you.

Take a sanity pill and all will become clear.

EvF
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