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Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 7:47 am
Sagan got it, and was much more polite than I can muster as far as the call to accept humans only have each other.
Now, here is my rant and blunt and blasphemous version of Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot speech.
No one is getting off this rock in mass, at least not right now. You look at a picture of the planet which was around long before even written language and our species current petty beefs, LOOK VERY CAREFULLY! No boarders, no labels, no politics when you merely look at the picture.
The rich, the poor, the the Muslim, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Hindu, Buddhist all die. The Preacher, Imam, Dali Lama, dictator and PM all die.
SO PLEASE HUMANITY how about we all grow the fuck up, accept our finite existence allow for the bitching and put our labels on the back burner!
I love my species ability to be compassionate, I simply hate humans hiding behind ANY label thinking they own a patent on morality.
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 7:50 am
(January 15, 2015 at 7:47 am)Brian37 Wrote: Sagan got it, and was much more polite than I can muster as far as the call to accept humans only have each other.
Now, here is my rant and blunt and blasphemous version of Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot speech.
No one is getting off this rock in mass, at least not right now. You look at a picture of the planet which was around long before even written language and our species current petty beefs, LOOK VERY CAREFULLY! No boarders, no labels, no politics when you merely look at the picture.
The rich, the poor, the the Muslim, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Hindu, Buddhist all die. The Preacher, Imam, Dali Lama, dictator and PM all die.
SO PLEASE HUMANITY how about we all grow the fuck up, accept our finite existence allow for the bitching and put our labels on the back burner!
I love my species ability to be compassionate, I simply hate humans hiding behind ANY label thinking they own a patent on morality.
I object to being labelled a 'human'.
MM
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 8:25 am
Patents on morality? haven't those expired already?
Quote:To know yet to think that one does not know is best; Not to know yet to think that one knows will lead to difficulty.
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 8:30 am
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 8:31 am by Brian37.)
(January 15, 2015 at 7:50 am)ManMachine Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 7:47 am)Brian37 Wrote: Sagan got it, and was much more polite than I can muster as far as the call to accept humans only have each other.
Now, here is my rant and blunt and blasphemous version of Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot speech.
No one is getting off this rock in mass, at least not right now. You look at a picture of the planet which was around long before even written language and our species current petty beefs, LOOK VERY CAREFULLY! No boarders, no labels, no politics when you merely look at the picture.
The rich, the poor, the the Muslim, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Hindu, Buddhist all die. The Preacher, Imam, Dali Lama, dictator and PM all die.
SO PLEASE HUMANITY how about we all grow the fuck up, accept our finite existence allow for the bitching and put our labels on the back burner!
I love my species ability to be compassionate, I simply hate humans hiding behind ANY label thinking they own a patent on morality.
I object to being labelled a 'human'.
MM
Primate?
(January 15, 2015 at 8:25 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Patents on morality? haven't those expired already?
Patents on morality have never existed. Religion is a fake patent office.
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 10:26 am
(January 15, 2015 at 8:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: Primate?
That's better, but still loaded with preconceptions.
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 10:30 am
Yah, but labels are the fun part that makes everyone kill each other. Can we pleeeeez keep them?
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 11:58 am
(January 15, 2015 at 10:26 am)ManMachine Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 8:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: Primate?
That's better, but still loaded with preconceptions.
MM
But it's fun to use. Creationists throw apeshit when being called primates.
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RE: Humans listen up! OP/ED
January 15, 2015 at 12:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 12:38 pm by Brian37.)
(January 15, 2015 at 11:58 am)abaris Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 10:26 am)ManMachine Wrote: That's better, but still loaded with preconceptions.
MM
But it's fun to use. Creationists throw apeshit when being called primates.
On top of stupidly thinking evolution claims that magically a human popped out of a monkey in one birth. That is not what evolution claims.
Evolution is no harder than understanding the difference between what you looked like at conception vs how you look at the age of 70.
Shuffle DNA over millions of years slight changes in the atoms and molecules can create eventual distinct and separate looks. Just like your cousins are related to you but look different.
Any idiot can look at a tiger and domestic house cat and tell they are related. DNA on top of that proves they were.
Denying evolution today is just as stupid as if you still believed the earth was flat and rejected Galileo's findings.
(January 15, 2015 at 10:30 am)polar bear Wrote: Yah, but labels are the fun part that makes everyone kill each other. Can we pleeeeez keep them?
Cant avoid labels. What would you replace them with? Grunting? I simply want to shift the priority away from labels being our species priority and more to the fact as a priority that we are the same species.
I think what can help is to stop saying "I am a(insert label here)".
A religion is something you are born into and sold or buy, but it is not physically your DNA. Your place of birth is merely your place of birth. Humans have always migrated and mixed.
"Atheist" is my position, but you cannot draw my blood and find "atheist" DNA.
I think the best humans can do is look at the individual first. Everything else is merely our tribalism.
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