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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:32 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 10:38 am)Xeno Wrote: (January 29, 2015 at 9:46 am)Drich Wrote: The problem with atheist? You all tend to want the easy answers in life. The intelectually lazy way out. You seek the answers that allow your o keep your perspective, and makes the 'issue' (whatever it is) someone else's problem.
Bolding mine.
The irony. It's too much.
You're the one who believes an outdated, incosistent book without question or evidence, yet we are intelectually lazy? Can you give us a reason why you would think so?
again another ironically lazy statement. Why? because you believe that I have not spent the last 20+ years researching and testing every aspect of what I believe.
I have shown time and time again that I can support everything I hold to and believe. Not only that I know the atheist positions far batter than most of you!
You can tell your selves whatever you like, but know (and I can provide plent of proof just in this thread) that I take nothing for granted, that I look up and research absolutly EVERYTHING on bothsides of the conversation and stick with what rings true.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:34 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: again another ironically lazy statement. Why? because you believe that I have not spent the last 20+ years researching and testing every aspect of what I believe.
I have shown time and time again that I can support everything I hold to and believe. Not only that I know the atheist positions far batter than most of you!
You can tell your selves whatever you like, but know (and I can provide plent of proof just in this thread) that I take nothing for granted, that I look up and research absolutly EVERYTHING on bothsides of the conversation and stick with what rings true.
OK, then present the evidence.
You might also take into consideration that most of the times you try to support your claims, your arguments are rebuted.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:37 pm
Oh no.. Don't open the rabbit hole of crazy circular Drich-reasoning Xeno...
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:37 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 12:48 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I can provide an adequate synopsis of your position, if you need one Drich.
On the issue of monkey men with souls, genesis, and evolution, you've offered the extrabiblical claim that you can squeeze all of -whatever- into the time between the end of creation and the fall.
-You actually can't, I've demonstrated why, and offered you a means of demonstrating or falsifying your own claim by biblical reference. You ran off to some bullshit about exodus and dropped the monkey man song and dance.
As regards exodus, you've given a contra-biblical, falsifiable, and..conveniently, falsified excuse as to why no evidence has been found rather than simply say "Bible says that nothing wore out because magic".
-Unfortunately, you've been called out on that at length, but here were are, up to date.
You've clearly shown that you can support what you believe, but in doing so you've shown what you'll accept as support for what you believe. That "support" is extra-biblical, contra-biblical, non-factual, logically invalid...and, frankly....ridiculous bullshit of the very lowest order even without mentioning any of the former. Allow me to suggest that if -this- is what satisfies you as far as support for a belief...then you require none at all -in actuality-. That it might be prudent, since each piece of "support" provides a means to demonstrably falsify your beliefs, that your beliefs would be better served if you stopped attempting to support them at all. Your "ministry" here is chipping away at what little credibility anyone might have afforded it even if only on the grounds of earnestness. You've convinced me, for example, that not only are your beliefs demonstrably and factually wrong...but that you don't actually believe them as you claim to, and that you certainly aren't interested in these beliefs you claim at all.... - and that takes quite a bit. Is that what you're shooting for, is this the goal? If not, you might want to rethink your method, eh?
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:37 pm
I regret it already. Sorry guys...
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 12:53 pm by Drich.)
(January 29, 2015 at 10:46 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Your story said he was telling you past and future events. He told me stuff that I did while alone and never told a soul, He told me of my thoughts and dreams I had for myself, and told me how my life would unfold to make those things happen 10x's above and beyond what I orginally wanted. about 2/3's of what he said has happened.
Quote:Did he show you evidence he was an angel?
The word angel in the greek and Hebrew literally translate into 'messenger' in english. The fact that he carried a message from God, and how over the years it has played out was/is his evidence.
Quote:Why didn't he say he was an angel?
I was driving and Scared out of my mind already. At the point i realized this guy wasn't just some psyic I thought to my self he must be an 'Angel' He stopped talking for a moment looked me dead in the eye smiled and gave me an acknologement and then started talking again. (I guess it was funny that it took me so long to figure things out.)
Quote:You would have believed him if he did wouldn't you?
If he would have told me I think I would have had the same reaction as everyone else in the bible. Fall face down in reverance... which would not have been a good thing at highway speed.
Quote:Why does an angel need money?
Maybe it was for someone else. Maybe he want to drink a coke before he went back, or maybe he wanted to show me I was not as smart as I thought I was. I dont know I kinda had a few other things to think about.
(January 29, 2015 at 12:06 pm)Xeno Wrote: Hey Drich, there's that little question I asked you. I know you're technically not obligated to, but could you answer it? Thanks a bunch.
what was it?
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:53 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 12:54 pm by h4ym4n.)
(January 29, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: You can tell your selves whatever you like, but know (and I can provide plent of proof just in this thread) that I take nothing for granted,
Except fortune tellers posing as angels for a buck or two.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-30973-po...#pid859444
What does god need with a starship... Or why does an angel need money.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:55 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Drich Wrote: (January 29, 2015 at 12:06 pm)Xeno Wrote: Hey Drich, there's that little question I asked you. I know you're technically not obligated to, but could you answer it? Thanks a bunch.
what was it?
Why do you consider us intelectually lazy?
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:55 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:53 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: (January 29, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Drich Wrote: You can tell your selves whatever you like, but know (and I can provide plent of proof just in this thread) that I take nothing for granted,
Except fortune tellers posing as angels for a buck or two.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-30973-po...#pid859444
What does god need with a starship... Or why does an angel need money.
Even better question why are Angels turning tricks on corners?
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RE: Creation/evolution3
January 29, 2015 at 12:58 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Xeno Wrote: Really? No? It's just going to be another empty assertion from you?
Why am I surprised?
Omg
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