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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 20, 2015 at 7:07 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 6:18 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: God pre-ordains all that comes to pass.
If atheism were true you’d have the same issue but to an even more severe degree since all decisions made on the field would be pre-determined by and according to the chemical processes within the brains of the players and coaches. Let’s all cheer for streams flowing, rocks falling, and ice melting! How boring!
I think there's quite some room for debate on whether self-conscious human thought is entirely deterministic, even though the rest of the universe (and many of the factors influencing any human thought) obviously is.
There is something a lot more comforting about the idea that it's not being controlled by a brutal fuckup of a god, as Christianity asserts, because then we're all victims of intentional malice, instead of practically unpredictable circumstance. What's the point of football if God intended for the Green Bay Packers to lose that game? What's the point of living if God knows precisely when he's going to kill you with cancer?
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 6:48 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Um, no.
Without such an imperative then it does not matter one iota what Foster believes.
(January 20, 2015 at 6:53 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: It probably has something to do with all the shit Christians have inflicted upon unbelievers for god knows how long. Nice to see their chokehold being loosened.
Poor atheists, being fed to the lions and sent to the gulag camps on a daily basis!
Quote: Of course, I can understand your churlishness. No one likes to see their worldview cut up in such a pithy manner.
An NFL running back being an atheist has no bearing on the soundness of my conceptual scheme kind sir.
(January 20, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I think there's quite some room for debate on whether self-conscious human thought is entirely deterministic, even though the rest of the universe (and many of the factors influencing any human thought) obviously is.
There’s no room for debate if materialism is true, the mind is simply the result of the physical brain that is bound by natural law. I cannot fault you for thinking otherwise; after all, the natural processes within your brain caused you to do so.
Quote: There is something a lot more comforting about the idea that it's not being controlled by a brutal fuckup of a god, as Christianity asserts, because then we're all victims of intentional malice, instead of practically unpredictable circumstance. What's the point of football if God intended for the Green Bay Packers to lose that game? What's the point of living if God knows precisely when he's going to kill you with cancer?
Well rationality is rooted in God’s nature, so some of your response is nonsensical. Everything we do ought to be intended to bring glory to God. When a football player displays a magnificent level of athleticism it certainly does just that.
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 20, 2015 at 7:45 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Poor atheists, being fed to the lions and sent to the gulag camps on a daily basis! You just proved.. a point theists mainly Christians are shitty people hands down who think they are the most moral people in the world without question.
(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: An NFL running back being an atheist has no bearing on the soundness of my conceptual scheme kind sir.
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Hell its about time people started thanking themselves and the others around them for their accomplishments instead of a god whose existence is pointing to not existing.
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There’s no room for debate if materialism is true, the mind is simply the result of the physical brain that is bound by natural law. I cannot fault you for thinking otherwise; after all, the natural processes within your brain caused you to do so.
Exactly the universe is material our brain is who we are and when we die its all over.
(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well rationality is rooted in God’s nature, so some of your response is nonsensical. Everything we do ought to be intended to bring glory to God. When a football player displays a magnificent level of athleticism it certainly does just that.
Really... rationality and god do not belong in the same sentence.
Rationally a person with any rational thought can see there is no god so why say its rational to say there is one with no empirical evidence.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 20, 2015 at 7:54 pm
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(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well rationality is rooted in God’s nature,...
Baseless assertion.
For someone who earlier was professing adherence to logic, you seem to have issues with its application.
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 20, 2015 at 8:06 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 7:54 pm)Cato Wrote: (January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well rationality is rooted in God’s nature,...
Baseless assertion.
For someone who earlier was professing adherence to logic, you seem to have issues with its application.
He's a presupp, what do you expect?
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 20, 2015 at 8:13 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: (January 20, 2015 at 6:48 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Um, no.
Without such an imperative then it does not matter one iota what Foster believes. Some of us do value truth though. I didn't say you were under obligation to.
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 21, 2015 at 12:29 am
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I don't follow football, but it's always very nice to find an atheist in something you're interested in. Even if he's been out about it for a while, he probably made the day of some football fans who didn't know. 
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 21, 2015 at 2:19 am
If the Texans make the Flying Spaghetti Monster  their logo I'd be their number 1 fan. I may have to take up prayer 
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Epicurus
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 21, 2015 at 3:21 am
(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: There’s no room for debate if materialism is true, the mind is simply the result of the physical brain that is bound by natural law. I cannot fault you for thinking otherwise; after all, the natural processes within your brain caused you to do so.
Oh, it undoubtedly is bound by natural laws, the extent of which we have only just begun to uncover. Human thought is one of those few remaining legitimate ambiguities.
Quote:Well rationality is rooted in God’s nature, so some of your response is nonsensical. Everything we do ought to be intended to bring glory to God. When a football player displays a magnificent level of athleticism it certainly does just that.
All of this response is nonsensical, so I guess I'll live.
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RE: Big Name NFL Athlete Asserts his Atheism
January 21, 2015 at 3:26 am
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(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Poor atheists, being fed to the lions and sent to the gulag camps on a daily basis!
... said the guy whining about one -- count 'im, one -- football player proclaiming his disbelief. The horror of it all!
(January 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: An NFL running back being an atheist has no bearing on the soundness of my conceptual scheme kind sir.
Whence the wadded panties then? Certainly someone so smug and complacent in his faith has better things to worry about, right?
Oh, maybe not, considering your verbiage here.
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