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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 22, 2015 at 11:26 pm
(January 22, 2015 at 11:23 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (January 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Natachan Wrote: I don't see why they are complaining. At the end of my stay here I'll have to take the FE, a licensing exam for engineers. My college has a +90% pass rates for first time test takers. It's also an accredited program. If they let out students who couldn't pass the FE, they would likely lose that accreditation. Same with the law, medical, educational, and other colleges. So why would a college want to be exempted from this? If their law students can't pass the bar, for example, they shouldn't pretend that their law school is accredited or worth a damn.
But a theology or bible degree is crap anyway. I think even from good schools those grads have poor prospects. So let them put out their crap degrees in that if they wish.
Your last paragraph has it about right; they're doling out degrees in theology while engineering what little structure they have to make it appeal specifically to those students who just want the bible stuff and not the book learnin', so they can sell the courses that require the least amount of teaching, structure and oversight to the greatest number of people who wouldn't have high expectations for their education anyway. Aside from the part where they have to demand to be taken seriously regardless of how lackadaisical they're being, it's basically a way to get people to pay for no education.
All in all those degrees are worthless...
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 22, 2015 at 11:43 pm
(January 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Natachan Wrote: But a theology or bible degree is crap anyway.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 23, 2015 at 4:35 am
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If someone had a real degree in theology, they would have studied all religions objectively and would be an atheist. The fact that they are still a theist means they have failed. All they have done is massaged their ego.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 23, 2015 at 4:52 am
(January 23, 2015 at 4:35 am)robvalue Wrote: If someone had a real degree in theology, they would have studied all religions objectively and would be an atheist. The fact that they are still a theist means they have failed. All they have done is massaged their ego.
Catholic seminary produces its fair share of atheists I'm sure...
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 23, 2015 at 5:30 am
(January 23, 2015 at 4:52 am)Alex K Wrote: Catholic seminary produces its fair share of atheists I'm sure...
My philosophy professor in college was a Franciscan atheist. He gave me an A on a final (three essay questions) where one of my answers was simply "I don't know."
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 23, 2015 at 10:04 am
If they want to be exempt from the rating rules, fine. They will also be exempt from getting rated, so they will never get accreditation.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 23, 2015 at 10:17 am
(January 23, 2015 at 4:52 am)Alex K Wrote: (January 23, 2015 at 4:35 am)robvalue Wrote: If someone had a real degree in theology, they would have studied all religions objectively and would be an atheist. The fact that they are still a theist means they have failed. All they have done is massaged their ego.
Catholic seminary produces its fair share of atheists I'm sure...
Hell, a few years in Catholic church did the charm for me.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 23, 2015 at 10:37 am
(January 23, 2015 at 10:04 am)Chas Wrote: If they want to be exempt from the rating rules, fine. They will also be exempt from getting rated, so they will never get accreditation.
No, but that's violating their rights! A big part of their religion is free state accreditation for no work! Jesus said so like eighty times!
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 23, 2015 at 11:49 am
It is true and sad that those who are religiously home schooled and then graduate from a religious institution enter the working world quite ignorant of anything except the theistic hogwash they were taught. A degree earned at a religious institution is merely evidence of Hey, i believe in God. Not good enough, sorry.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 23, 2015 at 11:53 am
(January 23, 2015 at 11:49 am)Sionnach Wrote: It is true and sad that those who are religiously home schooled and then graduate from a religious institution enter the working world quite ignorant of anything except the theistic hogwash they were taught. A degree earned at a religious institution is merely evidence of Hey, i believe in God. Not good enough, sorry.
It's quite a harsh reality in their eyes but more or less this should be a wake up call for them to get a real education.
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