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Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
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Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
I'm reading the story of Samson and Delilah while watching DarkMatter2525 on YouTube, because as I'm a Skeptic, I try to ask questions and see evidence for myself whenever possible, in Darkmatters case I like to make sure he's not strawmanning the living hell out of the bible. Which so far, no, he isn't. The bible really is that fake.

In my old catholic bible, they tell Delilah to "beguile" Samson to get the secret to his weakness(Judges 16:5), and after I read that, I looked up "beguile" which means charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way. Can beguiling really cause someone to do what Samson did in Judges 16:17? Or was Samson just a moron who deserved what he got for being stupid? Thanks a bunch.
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RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
Sure.

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RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
She was hot, he was horny, he let the wrong head take over. Yes, that could have happened in principle. As to the rest of the story ...
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#4
RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
It's a classic tale, after all. Homocidal rage machine meets girl. The rest is just negotiation.
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RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
(January 25, 2015 at 3:34 pm)IanHulett Wrote: I'm reading the story of Samson and Delilah while watching DarkMatter2525 on YouTube, because as I'm a Skeptic, I try to ask questions and see evidence for myself whenever possible, in Darkmatters case I like to make sure he's not strawmanning the living hell out of the bible. Which so far, no, he isn't. The bible really is that fake.

In my old catholic bible, they tell Delilah to "beguile" Samson to get the secret to his weakness(Judges 16:5), and after I read that, I looked up "beguile" which means charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way. Can beguiling really cause someone to do what Samson did in Judges 16:17? Or was Samson just a moron who deserved what he got for being stupid? Thanks a bunch.

Samson was a complete idiot who was in love with Delilah and she ended up getting him killed. Also... in the bible it repeats that story anyways
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RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
Moral: Women are untrustworthy. Angel
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RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
(January 25, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Moral: Women are untrustworthy. Angel

Doesn't the story of adam and eve point that out already because the whole apple deal?
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RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
Does this mean that we could have learned something from the babble-book?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#9
RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
Why, why, why, Delilah?
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#10
RE: Was Samson a moron, or does beguiling actually work?
Smart enough to test Delilah on what she's do with the information. Not smart enough to dump her after she proved herself untrustworthy.
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