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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 28, 2015 at 11:42 pm
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(January 28, 2015 at 11:19 pm)Eager Mind Wrote: . . . either communism or feudalism will occour due to the plentiful resources available either being accessible to all or in abundance thus no need to scavange for crumbs, or feudalistic with the wealthiest percentile living significantly above their means.
Also there will be democracy, autocracy, or bureautocracy. 
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 28, 2015 at 11:47 pm
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Fortunately, as Christians, we can pray to Jesus for help, because he has all the answers and a plan for everything, and is going to come with an army of angels to rescue us from having to spend any brain power focusing on solutions to the new challenges facing humanity anyway, though, so...
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 28, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Nope Wrote: Except for the widening economic gap, all the OP's predictions sound like there will be a better world without religion. That is a weird stance for a Christian to take
I thought so too. Sounded a lot like Gene Roddenberry's (the late creator of Star Trek) vision. Secular Humanist utopia.
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 12:07 am
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Positive, perhaps yes. But a purely humanistic society does seem a bit..untethered, no? The devil you don't know? The dissolution of self? Hmmm
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 12:26 am
There will always be a devil you don't know unless you are content to sit in a closet.
Please define, "dissolution of self." How does a humanistic society lead to it?
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 12:31 am
For sure, im jutst emphasising the unkown is just that, unkown. Dissolution of self....hmmm the formation of cyborgs and the interconectedness of society forcing individuals to become conformists. The media we have today, that already influences thought magnified to a large degree funneling in ideas and desires that ought to be accepted in order to be part of the herd. The view of humans as purely biologically entities instead of anything of greater significance. All these, could, indeed have consequences. Perhaps not, but its worth a consideration.
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 1:02 am
Interesting that you speak of pressure to conform. I've seen that in many places but the first to come to mind is a church. Humanism - particularly the brand you were describing - is not about conformity at all. Just the opposite, in fact.
Humans are viewed as purely biological entities because that is what we are. That may indeed change in future. You mentioned cyborgs and integrating one's mind with a computer. I agree that those are probably inevitable and will certainly pose risks of loss of identity. I don't think too many people would jump into that head-first though. It will be a slow process. Ultimately, that is what holds the promise of us becoming much more than biological entities. How else are we going to do it?
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 9:35 am
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I find your prediction to be refreshingly optimistic, more so than I would be, and perhaps you have just watched The Minority Report :p
It's nice to see a theist saying society is generally going to get better while religion fades out (that is the gist I got anyhow). I'd be hard pressed to find another one on here who would say that. How that works alongside your beliefs I have no idea, but good on you for putting this out there.
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 9:50 am
(January 29, 2015 at 1:02 am)AFTT47 Wrote: Interesting that you speak of pressure to conform. I've seen that in many places but the first to come to mind is a church. Humanism - particularly the brand you were describing - is not about conformity at all. Just the opposite, in fact.
Humans are viewed as purely biological entities because that is what we are. That may indeed change in future. You mentioned cyborgs and integrating one's mind with a computer. I agree that those are probably inevitable and will certainly pose risks of loss of identity. I don't think too many people would jump into that head-first though. It will be a slow process. Ultimately, that is what holds the promise of us becoming much more than biological entities. How else are we going to do it?
Perhaps by the time we become cyborgs scientists will have found a way to make certain that the personality of the individual is kept intact so there won't be a loss of individuality.
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RE: A vision of the future and the death of religion
January 29, 2015 at 1:59 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 9:35 am)robvalue Wrote: I find your prediction to be refreshingly optimistic, more so than I would be, and perhaps you have just watched The Minority Report :p
It's nice to see a theist saying society is generally going to get better while religion fades out (that is the gist I got anyhow). I'd be hard pressed to find another one on here who would say that. How that works alongside your beliefs I have no idea, but good on you for putting this out there.
One thing for sure is that secularism is the way forward.
I always felt that way because religion well it teaches you how not to be a good person.
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