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Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm
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Numbers 30
Quote:…2"If a man makes a vow to the LORD, or takes an oath to bind himself with a binding obligation, he shall not violate his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth. 3"Also if a woman makes a vow to the LORD, and binds herself by an obligation in her father's house in her youth, 4and her father hears her vow and her obligation by which she has bound herself, and her father says nothing to her, then all her vows shall stand and every obligation by which she has bound herself shall stand 5 But if her father should forbid her on the day he hears of it, none of her vows or her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand; and the LORD will forgive her because her father had forbidden her.…
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So, men have to keep their words but a woman's vow can be broken if her dad doesn't want her to keep it. For the Christians on this site, why don't you still follow this law? This particular rule isn't dependent on the presence of a temple so there should be no problem with a father saying that his adult daughter can't make promises, right? If you believe that because of the New Testament such laws need no longer be followed, what was the purpose of this law in the first place? In an ideal Christian theocracy do you believe that unmarried, adult women would need their father's permission to enter into contracts?
Quote:"However, if she should marry while under her vows or the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself, 7and her husband hears of it and says nothing to her on the day he hears it, then her vows shall stand and her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand 8"But if on the day her husband hears of it, he forbids her, then he shall annul her vow which she is under and the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself; and the LORD will forgive her.
Why can't modern Christian husbands annul their wives's vows?
I can't remember which thread I saw this but one of the theists argued that biblical rape laws did not mean that the ancient Hebrews viewed women as merely property. I would like to know how the verses in Numbers don't prove that women were viewed as belonging to their husbands and fathers
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 7:41 pm
Cuz their wives would fucking kill them?
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 7:45 pm
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(February 1, 2015 at 7:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Cuz their wives would fucking kill them?
I honestly don't know how any woman can read the bible and still stay religious.
This is from Ecclesiastes 7. For anyone who believes that the verse is out of context, you can find it here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...esiastes+7
Quote:25So I turned my mind to understand,
to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things
and to understand the stupidity of wickedness
and the madness of folly.
26 I find more bitter than death
the woman who is a snare,
whose heart is a trap
and whose hands are chains.
The man who pleases God will escape her,
but the sinner she will ensnare.
27 “Look,” says the Teacher, “this is what I have discovered:
“Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things—
28 while I was still searching
but not finding—
[b]I found one upright man among a thousand,
but not one upright woman among them all.
29 This only have I found:
God created mankind upright,
but they have gone in search of many schemes.”
For those of you who are religious, do you think that it is harder for a woman to be considered righteous than a man? Why or why not? Do you believe women are less trustworthy than men?
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 8:13 pm
(February 1, 2015 at 7:45 pm)Nope Wrote: I honestly don't know how any woman can read the bible and still stay religious. They're deluded and want to believe otherwise. A woman started chatting me up about Christianity at the last place I worked, and I mentioned the treatment of women within the bible and how she interpreted this. Her response?
"Oh, all of that is just a misunderstanding by people who don't really understand the Bible."
Yeah, okay. Keep wearing your hair in a fucking bun, lady.
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 8:22 pm
It is a little weird the JWs that stop by are always women, but the JWs claim rigid Literalism.
Instead of sending them on their way next time they stop by, I might ask about that.
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 8:26 pm
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You'll just get the same bullshit answer that Strider got. These idiots have completely swallowed the Kool-Aid.
This kind of shit
does not happen by accident. It requires a willing victim.
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 8:27 pm
Am I the one that needs to bring up the old addage about not trusting anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die?
I think that's from Leviticus.
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 8:48 pm
Religion only benefits you if you're a man. If you're a religious woman you are submitting yourself to highly sexist and misogynistic ideas - Feminist or not, that's not important - But women, keep yourselves away from religion (this is not lecturing, it's advice)
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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(February 1, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You'll just get the same bullshit answer that Strider got. These idiots have completely swallowed the Kool-Aid.
This kind of shit
does not happen by accident. It requires a willing victim. I dunno, dude, those bitches are showing a lot of side ankle. And toenail paint!? Are you kidding me!? If they get raped, they were probably asking for it. And then, ya khow, we're going to have to behead them for corrupting upstanding muslim men with their seductive voodoo magic.
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RE: Vaginas Can't Keep Promises
February 1, 2015 at 10:25 pm
The old Testament was fulfilled, completed and rolled up.
What we take from that is the history, prophecies, promises, shadows and types.
We do not take the rules and regulations specifically contracted between God and Israel.
When Jesus declared, "It is over" and the temple curtain was ripped top to bottom- the OT was done.
Why do you guys go back there asking us questions about it?
I will say our leaders ( I say "Our"- loosely) love to go back in the OT to put yokes on Christians (like the tithe) that has nothing to do with Christianity.
They make the same mistake found here.
They should know better, but God's lament has always been that His own are dull of hearing and like sheep.
See, even God does not get everything He wants.
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