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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 12, 2015 at 6:37 pm
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(February 12, 2015 at 4:48 pm)Strider Wrote: I would guess that (barring mass extinction from religious extremists nuking the whole goddamn planet) by that time we'll have already expanded out into the universe. I hope that is the case. I have a vested interest in my uploaded consciousness surviving even after the planet's destruction.
I think we'll have self-directed our own evolution in no more than a few hundred years. We'll be immortal and optimized for survival in space. That's assuming we materialists have the correct view of the universe and consciousness can be uploaded to a computer of other synthetic brain.
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 12, 2015 at 10:50 pm
(February 12, 2015 at 6:37 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: (February 12, 2015 at 4:48 pm)Strider Wrote: I would guess that (barring mass extinction from religious extremists nuking the whole goddamn planet) by that time we'll have already expanded out into the universe. I hope that is the case. I have a vested interest in my uploaded consciousness surviving even after the planet's destruction.
I think we'll have self-directed our own evolution in no more than a few hundred years. We'll be immortal and optimized for survival in space. That's assuming we materialists have the correct view of the universe and consciousness can be uploaded to a computer of other synthetic brain.
Currently can we upload our brains.. hmm no will we one day more than likely i would like to ditch this meat suit and get into something more sleek and advance.
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 12, 2015 at 11:17 pm
Not unless they can transfer my dick with it.
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 12, 2015 at 11:58 pm
(February 12, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Not unless they can transfer my dick with it.
When the brain is fully mapped and coded, you'll have no need or desire to possess so crude an implement. A bigger problem is finding something interesting enough to do rather than tweaking your pleasure center directly all day.
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican...05-66.html
Quote:Dr. José Manuel Rodriguez Delgado implanted electrodes in the brains of 25 people.
1972: A 24-year-old man with temporal lobe epilepsy, identified as patient "B-19". "He was permitted to wear the device for 3 hours at a time: on one occasion he stimulated his septal region 1,200 times, on another occasion 1,500 times, and on a third occasion 900 times. He protested each time the unit was taken from him, pleading to self-stimulate just a few more times... "
1986: A 48-year-old woman with chronic pain. "the patient self-stimulated throughout the day, neglecting personal hygiene and family commitments."
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 13, 2015 at 12:08 am
It would probably get old eventually.
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 13, 2015 at 12:22 am
About 30 minutes after you die.
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 13, 2015 at 12:44 am
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(February 13, 2015 at 12:22 am)vorlon13 Wrote: About 30 minutes after you die.
And death comes pretty quick in the experimental situation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_ce...xperiments
Quote:Rats in Skinner boxes with metal electrodes implanted into their nucleus accumbens will repeatedly press a lever which activates this region, and will do so in preference over food and water, eventually dying from exhaustion.
But the condition where you've been uploaded and don't need to eat or drink and have machines to watch over your simulation, you don't die.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
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February 13, 2015 at 12:48 am
Rats will also endure electric shocks so strong they would rather starve to death than to experience them to get to COCAINE.
(And that's why cocaine should be illegal. I mention this for our readers in Rio Linda that might not be able to work that out)
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 13, 2015 at 12:48 am
Wait. No fucking AND no lasagna?
Kill me now.
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RE: Well, fuck...may as well just kill ourselves!
February 13, 2015 at 12:58 am
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(February 13, 2015 at 12:48 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Rats will also endure electric shocks so strong they would rather starve to death than to experience them to get to COCAINE.
Cocaine is just a crude chemical route to stimulating pleasure.
I, and most of society, agrees with you. Short circuiting the reward mechanisms of the brain has some serious down sides. In cocaine this is accentuated because, in addition to the dangers of self neglect, there side effects of paranoia, threat of cardiac death, stroke, tolerance, tissue necrosis, etc.
But direct brain stimulation is even scarier, though harder to implement and would be an even bigger threat to an uploaded trans-human. Sort of a super porn that eats all other motivations.
(February 13, 2015 at 12:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: Wait. No fucking AND no lasagna?
No, no, no.
Read closer.
You'd have no interest in fucking because you'd have something better.
Of course there would be lasagna.
That goes without saying.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
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