Obama's father really is Frank Marshall Davis

[mralstoner]

Graduated from Harvard Law, you do not even get into that school unless your incredibly smart.

That's true as a general rule, but there's no evidence that Obama was "incredibly smart".

There is evidence that Dr. Khalid al-Mansour (advisor to a Saudi prince) pulled some strings to get Harvard insider Percy Sutton to write a letter of recommendation for him. Why need a letter if Obama is incredibly smart?

His records are not "sealed", its against federal law for the school to give out any students grades.

They are sealed if he doesn't make them available to the public. What's to hide?

[Exian]

This whole thread reminds me of something I read somewhere that went:

"So, both of your parents have brown eyes; why are yours blue?"

"Genetics."

[mralstoner]

It's my understanding that student records have some legal privacy requirements attached, but I'll do what I can to help you sate this odd curiosity of yours ... you'll have to promise to discard this retarded line of reasoning once I demonstrate its falsity.

Deal?

Sure, but I won't hold my breath waiting.

Meanwhile, here are some pics of Mark Kaleokualoha Davis, the son of Frank Marshall Davis and a white woman.

Note the same age spots that Obama is developing.



Is this guy Obama's real half-brother? Could be.

More pics here:
http://www.sodahead.com/Kaleokualoha/media/

[Thumpalumpacus]

You won't need to hold your breath, schlub.

[Esquilax]

There is evidence that Dr. Khalid al-Mansour (advisor to a Saudi prince) pulled some strings to get Harvard insider Percy Sutton to write a letter of recommendation for him. Why need a letter if Obama is incredibly smart?

Why just assert that there's evidence if you know what it is?

Dude, you are going to need to do better than "he looks a bit like this other guy!" Like others have pointed out, you can point to disparate points of commonality for just about every human alive, doesn't mean they're related. But then, that's what conspiracy theories are always based around, this cherrypicking of singular points of data that support the pre-drawn conclusion, while ignoring the whole when it doesn't. That's why you're casting such a wide net in impugning Obama; this is about your presupposition that he's bad, not the facts.

[Jackalope]

Bloody fucking hell, I'm dumber for having read this thread.

[mralstoner]

Pfft! Fogerty plays guitar, Martin plays banjo. That's an obvious genetic difference.

[Thumpalumpacus]

So, what were his grades? And do we have a single piece of writing from his time at Harvard?

As far as I know, the answer to both questions is "no comment".

All I hear is that his records are sealed. How does that pass for "evidence"?

I'm on my phone right now, so I can't easily link sources. I will do so when I get home.

It's my understanding that student records have some legal privacy requirements attached, but I'll do what I can to help you sate this odd curiosity of yours ... you'll have to promise to discard this retarded line of reasoning once I demonstrate its falsity.

Deal?

Sure, but I won't hold my breath waiting.

Okay, here's the NY Times article demonstrating that he was not only a law student there, but the President of the Harvard Law Review. Now, one might assume that you'd have to be a damned good law student in order to cop such a prestigious gig, having to pass muster with the Review's 80 editors.

Here's what NBC reports about his thesis from Columbia, which he apparently had misplaced:

Conservative provocateurs have been hunting for it. Investigative journalists have been on the prowl, too. Even a former professor has been searching through old boxes for his copy of it. But today Barack Obama made it official: He doesn't have and can't release any copies of the thesis-length paper he wrote 25 years ago while a senior at Columbia University.

"We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University," Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News.

The hunt for Obama's senior "thesis" began with a throwaway line in a newspaper article last October. The New York Times story, on Obama's early New York years, mentioned in passing that the presidential contender had majored in political science at Columbia and had spent his time "writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament."

Journalists began hounding Columbia University for copies of the musty document. Conservative bloggers began wondering if the young Obama had written a no-nukes screed that he might come to regret. And David Bossie, the former congressional investigator and "right-wing hit man," as one newspaper described him, took out classified newspaper ads in Columbia University's newspaper and the Chicago Tribune in March searching for the term paper.

So what does the missing paper say, and could it be politically damaging to Obama? The Obama campaign won't offer any guidance since it says it doesn't have a copy. Spokesman Ben LaBolt wouldn't even say whether Sen. Obama threw out his copy or lost it.

So we turned for answers to the former professor who graded the now-elusive paper. His former professor, Michael Baron, recalled in an interview with NBC News that Obama easily aced the year-long class. Baron described the paper as a "thesis" or "senior thesis" in several interviews, and said that Obama spent a year working on it. Baron recalls that the topic was nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.

"My recollection is that the paper was an analysis of the evolution of the arms reduction negotiations between the Soviet Union and the United States," Baron said in an e-mail. "At that time, a hot topic in foreign policy circles was finding a way in which each country could safely reduce the large arsenal of nuclear weapons pointed at the other … For U.S. policy makers in both political parties, the aim was not disarmament, but achieving deep reductions in the Soviet nuclear arsenal and keeping a substantial and permanent American advantage. As I remember it, the paper was about those negotiations, their tactics and chances for success. Barack got an A."

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2008/...ing-thesis

As for the claim that Obama's records are "sealed", perhaps you should learn a little about American law before you run your mouth. School records, including university, are held private by the Family Educational Rights Privacy Act; they cannot be released unless Obama wishes to do so, and he is fully within his rights as an American citizen to keep them private.

After embarrassing Trump et al with his birth certificate, I don't blame him for ignoring the blowhards. I mean, he's a busy guy.

While we're on the topic of grades and theses, how come you haven't published yours, in order to demonstrate your qualification to comment on educational capabilities and practices?

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Bloody fucking hell, I'm dumber for having read this thread.

I'm not gonna lie -- the only reason I open a Stoner thread is because I know it will be a sideways trainwreck.

[Esquilax]

Pfft! Fogerty plays guitar, Martin plays banjo. That's an obvious genetic difference.

I'm sorry, do you actually think that just joking about the obvious problems with your argument are going to make them go away?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Pfft! Fogerty plays guitar, Martin plays banjo. That's an obvious genetic difference.

I'm sorry, do you actually think that just joking about the obvious problems with your argument are going to make them go away?

He's got problems that go far beyond the topic of this thread.