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Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm
I grabbed this off the Center for Action and Contemplation Website:
"T. S. Elliot said in the Four Quartets, "[Human]kind cannot bear very much reality." What humans often prefer are highly contrived ways of avoiding the real, the concrete, the physical. We fabricate artificial realities instead, one of which, I'm sad to say, is religion itself. So Jesus brought all of our fancy thinking down to earth, to one concrete place of incarnation--this bread and this cup of wine! "Eat it here, and then see it everywhere," he seems to be saying. (Munch it, chew it, gobble it.) If it's too idealized and pretty, if it's somewhere floating around up in the air, it's probably not the Gospel. We come back, again and again, to this marvelous touchstone of orthodoxy, the Eucharist. The first physical incarnation in the body of Jesus is now continued in space and time in ordinary food."
So how do you all interpret this?
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 1:52 pm
What's much to interpret there?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Not all humans seek to avoid reality. I also think he gives short shrift to the fact that religious people have largely been programmed to hold their particular beliefs.
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 3:21 pm
I interpret it as a quote from a website on Christian mythology.
Nothing more nothing less.
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 3:41 pm
(March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm)daver49 Wrote: I grabbed this off the Center for Action and Contemplation Website:
If it's too idealized and pretty, if it's somewhere floating around up in the air, it's probably not the Gospel.
I certainly don't see Christianity as a 'pretty' religion, whatever that means. It is an ugly religion headed by a cruel dictator god.
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 3:43 pm
I interpret it as copypasta.
What do I win?
Quote:To know yet to think that one does not know is best; Not to know yet to think that one knows will lead to difficulty.
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 3:48 pm
(March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm)daver49 Wrote: I grabbed this off the Center for Action and Contemplation Website:
"T. S. Elliot said in the Four Quartets, "[Human]kind cannot bear very much reality." What humans often prefer are highly contrived ways of avoiding the real, the concrete, the physical. We fabricate artificial realities instead, one of which, I'm sad to say, is religion itself. So Jesus brought all of our fancy thinking down to earth, to one concrete place of incarnation--this bread and this cup of wine! "Eat it here, and then see it everywhere," he seems to be saying. (Munch it, chew it, gobble it.) If it's too idealized and pretty, if it's somewhere floating around up in the air, it's probably not the Gospel. We come back, again and again, to this marvelous touchstone of orthodoxy, the Eucharist. The first physical incarnation in the body of Jesus is now continued in space and time in ordinary food."
So how do you all interpret this?
Slimming aid?
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 4:21 pm
(March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm)daver49 Wrote: I grabbed this off the Center for Action and Contemplation Website:
"T. S. Elliot said in the Four Quartets, "[Human]kind cannot bear very much reality." What humans often prefer are highly contrived ways of avoiding the real, the concrete, the physical. We fabricate artificial realities instead, one of which, I'm sad to say, is religion itself. So Jesus brought all of our fancy thinking down to earth, to one concrete place of incarnation--this bread and this cup of wine! "Eat it here, and then see it everywhere," he seems to be saying. (Munch it, chew it, gobble it.) If it's too idealized and pretty, if it's somewhere floating around up in the air, it's probably not the Gospel. We come back, again and again, to this marvelous touchstone of orthodoxy, the Eucharist. The first physical incarnation in the body of Jesus is now continued in space and time in ordinary food."
So how do you all interpret this?
He started out well in the bold, but then he went full retard.
He's essentially saying, "People are silly for creating false realities...and here's mine."
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 4:22 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2015 at 4:29 pm by daver49.)
(March 21, 2015 at 3:43 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: I interpret it as copypasta.
What do I win?
And being true to your quote from Lao Tse, you say that with reservations....right?
You already have what you wanted to win...
(March 21, 2015 at 3:48 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm)daver49 Wrote: I grabbed this off the Center for Action and Contemplation Website:
"T. S. Elliot said in the Four Quartets, "[Human]kind cannot bear very much reality." What humans often prefer are highly contrived ways of avoiding the real, the concrete, the physical. We fabricate artificial realities instead, one of which, I'm sad to say, is religion itself. So Jesus brought all of our fancy thinking down to earth, to one concrete place of incarnation--this bread and this cup of wine! "Eat it here, and then see it everywhere," he seems to be saying. (Munch it, chew it, gobble it.) If it's too idealized and pretty, if it's somewhere floating around up in the air, it's probably not the Gospel. We come back, again and again, to this marvelous touchstone of orthodoxy, the Eucharist. The first physical incarnation in the body of Jesus is now continued in space and time in ordinary food."
So how do you all interpret this?
Slimming aid? In a way, yes!
(March 21, 2015 at 1:52 pm)Alex K Wrote: What's much to interpret there?
Reality.
(March 21, 2015 at 3:21 pm)LostLocke Wrote: I interpret it as a quote from a website on Christian mythology.
Nothing more nothing less.
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RE: Taste and see...
March 21, 2015 at 4:37 pm
To be honest, I am underwhelmed by that quote. Is Eliot presenting that statement as a profound insight into the Eucharist or is this quote meant to give insights into the thinking of a fictional character in a story? (I've never read Eliot, so I have no idea of the context.)
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