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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:22 pm
(May 20, 2015 at 6:17 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Is the posting of scripture the problem? And is this true even if the question is specifically about scripture or best answered by the Word of God?
Please advise. Thanks.
Hey look, I have a hat too!
And now it is on.
Randy, you are allowed to post scripture. You are even allowed to post large tracts of scripture. What you are not allowed to do, is let that be the end of it. We are a discussion forum, geared toward discussions; if you use scriptural references as a launching point for your own thoughts, that's fine. If you're just copying and pasting other people's thoughts, then you are letting down the "discussion" part of the phrase "discussion forum." This is literally rule one, on our list of them.
Just include your own thoughts. Recap your interpretation of the scripture you've just posted, and you'll be fine. But gross, dishonest insinuations about the motivations behind mod actions, beyond the stated reasons for them, will do you no favors.
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm
The problem, Randy, is that you've taken to copy-pasting material from external sources *in place of making arguments in your own words*.
This is a discussion forum, not a place where we have copy-pasta wars with material from elsewhere.
You can certainly post scripture in *support* of a post, but not as the content *of* your post.
It's obvious you're doing a lot of copy-paste from somewhere. That's not in the spirit of what we do here.
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2015 at 6:30 pm by Randy Carson.)
(May 20, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (May 20, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: My posts are annoying because you are convicted by the Word of God.
You will use your "rules" to silence me - I've been expecting that - but everyone can see through your actions, becca.
Isn't it ironic that you (ab)use your authority in this forum to shut me up while atheists like yourself are constantly screaming that the Catholic Church was guilty of doing the same thing to pagans and non-Catholics in the early Church?
So, how is your censorship of me any different from the alleged abuses of the Catholic Church which you hate?
Oh please...
Your arguments are nothing we haven't heard before, nor are they any more supported by evidence or reasoned argument than any other theist that posts here.
Perhaps YOU have heard them (as I have heard many of yours, btw), but have you ever considered the post/views ratio of my threads, Simon? The views are running more than 10:1 meaning that there are potentially MANY more people following than commenting.
What does that mean? It means that I'm reaching a bigger audience than just you and the few who have decided to respond.
Hearts are being touched by the truth right here in this forum.
How do you feel about that?
Quote:Quote:That is possible.
Alternatively, it is possible that you are living in darkness and cannot see what I see.
If only you had demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support that claim.
And no, the Bible is not evidence, it is the claim.
It would make things easier for me, but then how would you get your jollies mocking Christians if we did?
(May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The problem, Randy, is that you've taken to copy-pasting material from external sources *in place of making arguments in your own words*.
This is a discussion forum, not a place where we have copy-pasta wars with material from elsewhere.
You can certainly post scripture in *support* of a post, but not as the content *of* your post.
It's obvious you're doing a lot of copy-paste from somewhere. That's not in the spirit of what we do here.
Let me ask this for clarification: Suppose that five years ago, someone in another forum asked me a question about...oh, I dunno...the pope kissing the Koran or the problems at the Children's orphanages in Ireland. You know...the kind of stuff that anti-Catholics love to ask about (see the pedophilia posts in this thread  ).
Now, if I wrote a detailed answer back then and saved it in Word on my computer for future use, is it a problem if I post it again here?
And please keep in mind that a simple one line question from a non-believer such as, "Can you explain the Trinity?" can REQUIRE a massive amount of effort to answer adequately.
Thanks.
(May 20, 2015 at 6:19 pm)francismjenkins Wrote: (May 20, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: FYI - I make it a policy to never follow links posted by people of ill-will in a public forum. Nothing personal, you understand.
BTW - Quite a few saints are named Francis. Oh, and the Pope, of course. How did you come by that name?
Francis Scott Keys' first name was also Francis (he was an Episcopalian), as was Francis Bacon (who urged for the execution of Mary, the Catholic Queen of the Scots) 
So, how did you come by the name?
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:36 pm
(May 20, 2015 at 6:05 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 20, 2015 at 5:51 pm)Iroscato Wrote: You poor thing. You have no idea how utterly blinkered your little world is.
That is possible.
Alternatively, it is possible that you are living in darkness and cannot see what I see.
This forum perpetuates that.
Ah, you're amusing, I'll give you that. Your entire belief system is built upon the written word of an ancient book, written by long-dead men in a distant land.
But even as your faith slowly crumbles around your ears, as millions realise the foolishness of its long-redundant, entirely false claims, you scrabble around in the dirt and claim insight that outweighs that of all the advances we've made since we first began to shrug off the oppressive poison of doctrine.
The world doesn't need your church, and it's dying out. But good luck with it all anyway
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:40 pm
(May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Hearts are being touched by the truth right here in this forum.
Reasoning isn't one of your strong suits, is it? A vast majority of those checking in are atheist and are likely laughing their asses off at your inanity. You are not touching hearts with truth, you are simply vomiting the same over digested nonsense that has been recycled for centuries.
You have nothing but baseless assertions until you prove God exists and demonstrate this character is responsible for the contents of the Bible. We all know you are incapable of doing this.
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2015 at 6:50 pm by Jackalope.)
(May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The problem, Randy, is that you've taken to copy-pasting material from external sources *in place of making arguments in your own words*.
This is a discussion forum, not a place where we have copy-pasta wars with material from elsewhere.
You can certainly post scripture in *support* of a post, but not as the content *of* your post.
It's obvious you're doing a lot of copy-paste from somewhere. That's not in the spirit of what we do here.
Let me ask this for clarification: Suppose that five years ago, someone in another forum asked me a question about...oh, I dunno...the pope kissing the Koran or the problems at the Children's orphanages in Ireland. You know...the kind of stuff that anti-Catholics love to ask about (see the pedophilia posts in this thread ).
Now, if I wrote a detailed answer back then and saved it in Word on my computer for future use, is it a problem if I post it again here?
And please keep in mind that a simple one line question from a non-believer such as, "Can you explain the Trinity?" can REQUIRE a massive amount of effort to answer adequately.
Thanks.
If that was done infrequently, it would probably be OK. Not to the extent that you're doing it.
Remember, this forum is for discussion. It isn't for regurgitating canned answers, no matter who wrote them.
You want to discuss apologetics, great. Discuss it. But what you've been doing is contrary to the purpose of this forum.
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm by Simon Moon.)
(May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Quote:If only you had demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support that claim.
And no, the Bible is not evidence, it is the claim.
It would make things easier for me, but then how would you get your jollies mocking Christians if we did? 
First of all, I don't mock Christians. I mock ridiculous unsupported faith based beliefs.
Listen, the only thing preventing me from believing that a god exists is demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic to support the claim that one does exist.
Without meeting the above criteria, what justification do I have to believe?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2015 at 6:55 pm by Nope.)
(May 20, 2015 at 6:10 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)Iroscato Wrote: And the veil drops. Fuck off, you petulant little child 
What veil, Iro?
Were you and your mates simply pushing my buttons to see how long it would be before I pushed back? Who won the pool?
No, nothing like what you imagine. I'm just pointing out becca's petty abuse of her authority as she tries to intimidate me.
My suspicion is that while you and everyone else are free to mock me and Jesus, the thin-skinned among you will not tolerate being treated in kind.
We'll see. Maybe I will be surprised, but I suspect that somewhere emails are being exchanged and a "quorum" convened.
This has gotten a little weird.
No one emailed me about a secret quorum. DRAT Seriously, no one is plotting against you.
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 7:27 pm
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RE: Ask a Catholic
May 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm
(May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 20, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Oh please...
Your arguments are nothing we haven't heard before, nor are they any more supported by evidence or reasoned argument than any other theist that posts here.
Perhaps YOU have heard them (as I have heard many of yours, btw), but have you ever considered the post/views ratio of my threads, Simon? The views are running more than 10:1 meaning that there are potentially MANY more people following than commenting.
What does that mean? It means that I'm reaching a bigger audience than just you and the few who have decided to respond.
Hearts are being touched by the truth right here in this forum.
How do you feel about that?
Quote:If only you had demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support that claim.
And no, the Bible is not evidence, it is the claim.
It would make things easier for me, but then how would you get your jollies mocking Christians if we did? 
(May 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The problem, Randy, is that you've taken to copy-pasting material from external sources *in place of making arguments in your own words*.
This is a discussion forum, not a place where we have copy-pasta wars with material from elsewhere.
You can certainly post scripture in *support* of a post, but not as the content *of* your post.
It's obvious you're doing a lot of copy-paste from somewhere. That's not in the spirit of what we do here.
Let me ask this for clarification: Suppose that five years ago, someone in another forum asked me a question about...oh, I dunno...the pope kissing the Koran or the problems at the Children's orphanages in Ireland. You know...the kind of stuff that anti-Catholics love to ask about (see the pedophilia posts in this thread ).
Now, if I wrote a detailed answer back then and saved it in Word on my computer for future use, is it a problem if I post it again here?
And please keep in mind that a simple one line question from a non-believer such as, "Can you explain the Trinity?" can REQUIRE a massive amount of effort to answer adequately.
Thanks.
(May 20, 2015 at 6:19 pm)francismjenkins Wrote: Francis Scott Keys' first name was also Francis (he was an Episcopalian), as was Francis Bacon (who urged for the execution of Mary, the Catholic Queen of the Scots) 
So, how did you come by the name?
How does anyone come by a name, usually parents right? In my case, a stork found me abandoned in a dumpster and left me in a basket in front of a church that was named St. Francis of Assisi church, so the pastor named me Francis.
My last name was originally Doe, but I loved the movie Roscoe Jenkins so much, I took the surname Jenkins
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