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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 12:08 pm
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Something being "nasty" has never been a good enough reason to ban it for everyone. Honestly, that should not need pointing out.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 12:12 pm
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(May 18, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Something being "nasty" has never been a good enough reason to ban it for everyone. Honestly, that should not need pointing out.
Why do u think Muslims don't eat swine?
They think that because Swine lives in mud and eat dirty things, so its digestive system is not the same as of Cow or Sheep.
I hear the same explanation always. I guess the argument here, why would a God create a creature and then ban humans from eating it. It sounds that God is not perfect in his creation.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 12:27 pm
I find it curious that Allah bans pork but not Fugu or jellyfish, which are poisonous. Or chicken, because salmonella is a thing. Swine contains less fat than sheeps, for example, and the bacon sandwich is said to be the biggest reason why people stop being vegetarian. Pigs are so useful but clearly Muhammadans are not willing to do any real research. Pigs are awesome.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 12:34 pm
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(May 18, 2015 at 12:27 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: I find it curious that Allah bans pork but not Fugu or jellyfish, which are poisonous. Or chicken, because salmonella is a thing. Swine contains less fat than sheeps, for example, and the bacon sandwich is said to be the biggest reason why people stop being vegetarian. Pigs are so useful but clearly Muhammadans are not willing to do any real research. Pigs are awesome.
Yes, true that!
According to Quran, humans are allowed to eat all the creatures found in the sea. I guess, Allah didn't know Jellyfish every existed, and he is not familiar with his creation.
In my opinion Pig meat tastes better than Cow or chicken. Unfortunately here in UAE I only can find frozen Pork and not fresh. But, the taste is still decent.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 12:39 pm
(May 18, 2015 at 10:29 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: But the funny thing is, Black Pudding is probably actually Halal. I showed that here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-31952.html
According to the Quran, it's only the flesh of the swine that is forbidden to eat. The Quran doesn't have to specify individual parts of a pig and could simply say "swine is forbidden" but it doesn't. According to the Quran, organs, hooves, bones and blood from a pig is Halal because only the flesh of the animal is Haram. Then you have these that deny what the Quran says and interpret it to suit their contrived aims.
This is an interesting interpretation and one that would have saved a lot of needless deaths.
In India the Sepoys rebelled because of rumours the Brits were using pork fat to grease the gun cartridges making them eat pork everytime they went into battle. Lies of course but it led to a lot of deaths and brutal suppression by English troops.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 12:39 pm
(May 18, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Prince Wrote: (May 18, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Something being "nasty" has never been a good enough reason to ban it for everyone. Honestly, that should not need pointing out.
Why do u think Muslims don't eat swine?
They think that because Swine lives in mud and eat dirty things, so its digestive system is not the same as of Cow or Sheep.
I hear the same explanation always. I guess the argument here, why would a God create a creature and then ban humans from eating it. It sounds that God is not perfect in his creation.
Yeah, that's why I said "good enough". Rational, grownup humans deserve a better reason than "God doesn’t like it".
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 1:44 pm
(May 18, 2015 at 11:57 am)Stimbo Wrote: Re: that vegetarian commentor - Natural products? Paper and moisturiser?
It's that ironic it hurts.
This is the bit annoys me:
Quote:To find out that meat products are also used in materials as widely diverse as paper, moisturiser and wine I find it personally upsetting, not to mention quite horrific
What is horrific about it? That it is used for such a wide variety of things should be applauded. It means the pig isn't wasted. I bet this same person would be perfectly fine if a tribe killed the pig for food. They'd applaud the fact that every part of the animal contributed something to the community. Why is it different for modern society?
I was under the impression that the people who abstain from eating meat and who cite ethical reasons for doing so, care about the animal's welfare while it's alive, not dead. Considering not eating meat has no effect whatsoever on the world's production of meat, I honestly think the only people who don't eat meat for the sake of those poor little animals are either so up their own arse they want something to be elitist about or they are that naive they think they're actually making a difference.
This person's comment bewilders me. It really does. What does it fucking matter, if the pig is used for paper. Or moisturiser. Or wine. Or ice cream. They say they care about the well-being of the animal, which is why they don't eat meat. But how many vegetarians of this nature do you see actually doing anything that would make conditions better for the animals?
Not eating meat doesn't do shit. Using a product that has pig in it, doesn't mean shit. Fuck every single cuntflap who has the audacity to act so superior when they don't eat meat and have the nerve to mouth off about how immoral it is. Fuck vegetarians. 'Cept for the ones who just don't like the taste of meat. I guess they're okay. A little weird, but they're okay.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Did the packaging say it was halal? I do not understand being "offended," to be sure, but false advertising shouldn't go unpunished just because the complainant is acting like a douche.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 1:55 pm
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(May 18, 2015 at 1:50 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Did the packaging say it was halal? I do not understand being "offended," to be sure, but false advertising shouldn't go unpunished just because the complainant is acting like a douche.
Read the article/thread.
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RE: Black pudding is Halal, apparently
May 18, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Well, I maintain that because organs and hoof don't count as flesh they are Halal. Prince reckons flesh counts as (all?) meat and I'm not so sure. As far as I'm concerned, meat is the muscle (and the skin surrounding it I suppose) - i.e. not offal. So long as the blood is removed, swine offal should be Halal.
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