Atheists in Foxholes

[Thumpalumpacus]

if I were in a foxhole I would pray to both satan and god, to maximize my chances

Or ya know, try to actually get out of the foxhole

In the exceptionally unlikely event that I was in a foxhole with unfriendlies trying to cause me discomfort, I'd be checking cell reception.

If I had bars, I'd make a call to M&M Enterprises to ensure that my payments had cleared and that the appropriate authorities were properly commanding the forces opposing.  In this case, 'properly commanding' means telling the baddies to go somewhere else.

I have lots more faith in cash than in prayer.

You'd best hope you paid more than the Germans!

[JuliaL]

You'd best hope you paid more than the Germans!

It's ALL open to negotiation.
I just hope I have the liquid capital.

[Thumpalumpacus]

You'd best hope you paid more than the Germans!

It's ALL open to negotiation.
I just hope I have the liquid capital.

I dunno ... what's good for M&M is good for America ...

[Secular Elf]

I'd like to sincerely commend Secular Elf for his refreshingly mature response to a rules violation.  So many new people come here, go link-crazy, and get all snotty when the mods call them on it.

Well done, SE.  I hope you stick around.

Boru

Thank you Boru.  When I am right, I am right; when I am in the wrong, I am elf enough to admit it.  I plan on sticking around as long as I got breath in me. 

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You check your rifle, you check your sights,check your water, hope that the indirect is dialed in (when you have it), and maybe, just maybe, you wonder whether or not the great god AGM is hovering overhead for epic justice!  Failing, that, perhaps one of his lesser angels....

Some nutballs might need the armor of heaven to feel protected, but if I can get all of that - Imma strap on a kevlar cup and shout "Hooah"  

As Spooky commented upon...there are all types of folks in foxholes.  Imma be honest, I don't recall ever having gotten into a discussion about god while in a position.  It's anecdotal, wouldn't take it to mean much, other than the fact that soldiers can, sometimes,, have more pressing things on their minds.  I think this "no atheists in foxholes" nonsense, much like the vast majority of today's holiday...is for civilians, not joes.  When shit gets rough, we don't drop our weapons and pray to some fucking god to save us.....not even the believers do that......

I have never been in the military, so I can't say what people actually do in a foxhole under fire, other than imagine that I would be doing my best to survive and still hold my position, or whatever else I was ordered to do at that moment.  I have the greatest respect for veterans and our fallen dead.  My father fought in WWII, Pacific theater, New Guniea and Australia. He always told the family about his experiences during that war.  His troop was in training to invade Japan weeks before the A-Bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  As awful as that event was, it was due to the decision by the then generals and President to have that done that my father survived and met my mom a few years later and had us kids.  I am thankful for that decision that I and my siblings are alive and I am sitting here typing on my keyboard this moment and not some imaginary invisible friend in the sky.

[nihilistcat]

Since today is Memorial Day and I am already tired of the god-talk I want to recognize our people's war dead and give them honor by posting this link to the Atheist Veterans Memorial.  On this memorial are the following words:

“In memory of ATHEISTS IN FOXHOLES and the countless FREETHINKERS who have served this country with honor and distinction. 


“Presented by the national Freedom From Religion Foundation with hope that in the future humankind may learn to avoid all war.”

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The memorial is at Lake Hypatia, Alabama.  I was there one July 4th weekend.  It is a lovely place.

Thank you for the kind words.

Atheist
Army, served in Iraq 2004-05

[Secular Elf]

I wore "atheist" on my dogtags ... but I was smart enough to join the Air Force, so no foxholes here

Isn't the Air Force one of the more religious branches?

This is where the Dominionist infiltration of the U.S. Military comes in.  Yes, based on some of the reports I have read, especially through Mikey Weinstein's Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which is basically a law firm protecting the religious rights of all soldiers, airmen, sailors, etc. from abusive religious intimidation, it has been quite a problem within the Air Force and Army.  It does not matter who you are, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jewish, Pagan, etc., there have been many incidences of Officers pushing Dominionist theology on junior service members.  Go to this website to read more: http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/
I  am very concerned about the Dominionists infesting our military.  I don't like it one bit.  Establishing a theocratic fascist Christian state here through a military coup, I would not put that past them.

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Short of farming and manufacturing, the military does everything.  Though now days some of it it outsourced to the civilian community.

When my dad was in the U.S. Army during WWII, he was in a unit that described his rank as T-4.  It was an engineering unit, building bridges, bunkers, and stuff like that I think.

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Since today is Memorial Day and I am already tired of the god-talk I want to recognize our people's war dead and give them honor by posting this link to the Atheist Veterans Memorial.  On this memorial are the following words:

“In memory of ATHEISTS IN FOXHOLES and the countless FREETHINKERS who have served this country with honor and distinction. 


“Presented by the national Freedom From Religion Foundation with hope that in the future humankind may learn to avoid all war.”

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The memorial is at Lake Hypatia, Alabama.  I was there one July 4th weekend.  It is a lovely place.

Thank you for the kind words.

Atheist
Army, served in Iraq 2004-05

You are welcome francis.  I would like to thank you and all of our veterans on this forum, religious or not, for their service to our country.