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I guess I'm agnostic?
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May 26, 2015 at 3:40 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2015 at 3:42 am by robvalue.)
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 I'm sad to hear about you being so surrounded by theists, it must be overwhelming. I can't imagine how stifling it must be to have to keep your (lack of) beliefs to yourself for fear of being treated badly. Unfortunately, it's a matter of weighing up the benefits of telling everyone (not least of which is losing the weight of pretending) compared with the probable damage it would be cause. Only you can assess how bad the reactions may be. I'd go ahead and say that anyone who doesn't want to be your friend any more because you're not a theist is a shitty friend to begin with and doesn't deserve you. Maybe you'll find my website useful, I go into a lot of detail about what exactly atheism and agnosticism are: http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!what-is-atheism/c57k http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!agnosti...stic/c1xja Praise jibbers, the obviously true actual God! Feel free to send me a private message.
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May 26, 2015 at 9:10 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2015 at 9:10 am by c172.)
Welcome. My grandparents are in Parma.
I only spent one year in a Christian school. One of those biggish Catholic ones (like SVSM, which LeBron went to, IIRC). I actually liked it pretty well, but there was one time when the religion teacher was going to have me confess my sins, just so I'd know what it was like, but it didn't wind up happening due to some time constraint. Scared me.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
Yes, welcome. Sorry to hear that you're in such a spot.
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Are you an agnostic theist, or an agnostic atheist? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. 
Hi gubeym. Welcome to the Atheist Forums, one noob to another.
That Christian school you went to apparently was kissed by the Dominionists, those asshats have infected many a church and political arena these days. Be glad that you are out of that environment, be very glad. If it helps google up any freethought/secular groups in your area. I suggest starting with the Council for Secular Humanism (who are behind the publication of Free Inquiry magazine), they usually have a state-by-state listing of such groups. That is how I found the Atlanta Freethought Society. Meeting and being around people who think similar to you is a great balm for easing any pains inflicted by the religious culture.
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May 26, 2015 at 6:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2015 at 6:25 pm by Salacious B. Crumb.)
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May 27, 2015 at 12:02 am
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2015 at 12:26 am by gubeym.)
(May 26, 2015 at 1:16 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: northeast ohio. So yes. Cursed to always be a fan of the browns. The one thing all browns fans have in common is that we hate that we're browns fans... (May 26, 2015 at 9:10 am)c172 Wrote: Welcome. My grandparents are in Parma. Honestly, I loved my christian school until about 7th grade. I asked questions, that were pretty basic, and completely tore down my believe system. So I'm agnostic, I suppose. I don't hate people who are atheist, and I don't like conflict. So, while I will offer my input if asked, I don't plan on getting into a fight over what they believe in, because in the end, we have 100 years at best, theres not enough time to worry about someone worries of death. (May 26, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: Hi gubeym. Welcome to the Atheist Forums, one noob to another. Actually, it was the Amish. They threatened the principal every night with their unmatched skill in carpentry and unbeatable prices.  But thanks for the advice! I actually go to Akron university. It's my last semester, but I think I might check out the Atheist confederation of whatever it's called.  (May 27, 2015 at 12:02 am)gubeym Wrote:(May 26, 2015 at 1:16 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Well, you and Exian will get along. And I shall gloat the two times a year that my boys take you to church.
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