Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet

[Ace]

Its great that they're occurring, course, they're only occurring because the church can no longer obstruct justice as competently as it once had.

Well actually my argument had nothing to do with the damn church at all. Hell i was not the one to even bring it up!! My post was in response to Divination (I think the name is) True pedophiles are in religious institution as well as  our jobs, work, schools, church's, were we live and so on. To look only in one place is not realistic when the issue is far more spread out.

True and I agree. But do keep in mind that trying people for sex crimes is actually a current crime in the law. It was not illegal to rape until about the 1920's and spousal rape was not prosecuted until the 1950's (I think)

You seem to think that this is some excusing difference.

DEAR GOD YES!! And I would argue that the victims of such hellish crimes would strongly disagree with you.
It is a big deference when victims can receive justices!
It is a big difference were criminals can be tried and sentence for their crimes!
It is a big difference when the institution its self acutely acknowledges its wrongs and is attempting to make amends. Unlike many institutions who refuses to look at issue that are the causes for the wrong done (for example the police department and racism. Because no one want to address this very importantly true issue, many more innocents will be killed and cops will be free to do so without any fear of being charged.

painting "the gay agenda" as villainous, a tool for abuse.

I am not at all doing such thing.  It is others that are using your argument and the same laws that aid you in your fight that are doing it.

And it is surprising that you are not at all offended by any alternative group misusing and misrepresenting your ideas, using the laws that ruled in your favor to push their agenda to equal status to yours. That you do not object or even take action against such a thing is very surprising. Hell you guy seem to not even want to think of such actions even when informed that they are actually occurring. I know damn will, if someone who did very bad things, try equate it with something good in order to accept them as good, I would be pissed!!!

It is 'THEM'" not me! I am only repeating what they are saying and how they are arguing. It is in no damn way my argument what so ever!!!

[Ace]

Still with slippery fucking slope fallacies...

How many times must it be pointed out to you, Ace, that paedophilia is a wholly different ball game to homosexuality? What is it going to take for you to realise the acceptance of one doesn't necessarily lead to the other?

NAMBLA are a group of twisted, sick fuckers who will use any and all justifications to further their cause. The fact that they're trying to assimilate the gay rights movement doesn't make them indicative of the overall climate.

Seriously if you're using them as a barometer of events then you need to get your shit together, and fast...

And how many time does it have to be said to you that IT IS NOT MY FUCKING IDEA !!! BUT THE VERY TWISTED FUCKS that are the ones who ARE FUCKING MAKE THE COMPASSION!!! THEY are filing court briefs!! they are pushing for society and the laws to change
Why you can not seem to get you selfish head out of your ass and wake the fuck up to see what is happening, is beyond me. Law, court ruling, prier court cases, arguments, logic, reason are not just yours!! Other people can and are using them!

[The Grand Nudger]

It is 'THEM'" not me! I am only repeating what they are saying and how they are arguing. It is in no damn way my argument what so ever!!!

Excellent, it's "them"...and so since it's "them".....then you have no problem with the gay agenda, or marriage equality, which is not part of the "them".  Glad we got that hammered out.  You have a problem with pedos.  Welcome to the club. No part of that problem has anything to do with marriage equality, or homosexuals....and I'm confident that both you, I, and our courts can handle the distinction. Anything else?

[Ace]

I'm confident that both you, I, and our courts can handle the distinction.  Anything else?

Sadly, that is so not true.

TRUST THE COURTS . . .HAHAHA TRUST THE COURTS??? Only one who has never had to deal with this countries court system would make such a statement. NEVER WILL I TRUST THE COURTS, you will be so damn amazed at what the purpose of the courts really is. And I will tell you right now, it sure the hell is not to protect the citizens, to be truly receive justices, hell there are times when they do not even follow the damn law but what they think the damn ruling should be!

In having to deal with one of those sick fucks in my neighborhood, two streets down, were kids including mine, live, play, and attend the school just down the street.  I have seen the law and the courts not even blink an eye about the protection of the people even kids.

3 years and counting of court, petitions, letters, meetings with government officials and the conclusion thus far has been  . . .that this fuck gets to live in the neighborhood because . . .:

“He has served his time and is following the requirements set in his parole!! He has rights to, that includes living in a home, in, and neighborhood he wishes. He is only required to be a certain distance form schools, which according to them he is!” We are given paper work one various studies that show pedophiles have “very low recidivism rate unlike drug dealer or robbers”, (does that just not sound to good to hear?)

NO FUCKING WAY!!

 No part of that problem has anything to do with marriage equality, or homosexuals....and

Again yes, it does. I know you do not what to believe this, or think it is not so, but it is.

It is your argument, your ideas and laws that they are using, like it or not.  Before the equal same sex marriage movement Pedophile never even considered the idea of social acceptance until it was achieve by the gay movement. Because society has change and accepted gays, soon it will also accept polygamy, bigamy, adult insets,  (which cases are in the courts now and many on this board have stated that they support these acceptances). Then it will accept us in society. . .

Now even they talk of the same ideas of: “one has the right to love,” “love win’s, ” “we have the right to dignity also, ” “the homosexuality was one time persecuted and seen as a deviant bad behavior. Now society has accept them, so they will do the same with us because we are no different.”

[The Grand Nudger]

Sounds like you have a problem with courts -and- pedos, not marriage equality. You're the kind of person that would shit on the gays because you don't like courts and pedos...? Like I said, we really outta keep shoes out of the world.....because Natzees! No shoes, and no gay marriage, because Natzees and pedos....and courts, this all makes perfect sense. Can we agree on that?

[Ace]

. . . the acceptance of one doesn't necessarily lead to the other?

And what proof do you have to make such a clam? How are you so certain that one thing will not lead to the other? Faith? Sorry but that I do not have for such an issue.

Because it is so impossible that it is not even possible? . . . . Truly, can you sit back and say beyond confidences the 10 years ago you know with out a doubt that homosexuality would ever be at the level of acceptance it is now in today's society. Be Truly Honest, with your self. Would you have every image homosexual acceptance and marriage today??

Keep in mind that 10 years ago public oppenion polls were deeply against it, the majority of people did not accept it. It was view as a repulsive deviant act. It was illegal to engage in homosexual sex. Can you honestly say the you know that this would be the outcome of homosexuality today in our society 10 years ago??

[The Grand Nudger]

Every breath you waste on marriage equality you could have used to oppose pedos.  Food for thought.

[Divinity]

Pedophilia is still illegal in all the countries where gay marriage has been legalized for a long time.

How do you KNOW that acceptance of gay people will lead to acceptance of pedophilia? Or are you making assumptions? Which makes an ass out of you and umption. Oh it's "possible". Well guess the fuck what? It's possible that allowing Christian Churches to operate will lead to more people being scammed out of their hard earned money. Only there's ACTUAL evidence for such a thing. So obviously we should outlaw Christian Churches.

[Ace]

Sounds like you have a problem with courts -and- pedos, not marriage equality.  You're the kind of person that would shit on the gays because you don't like courts and pedos...?  

And if polygamy is grant then what? and if adult inset is granted then what?

"shit on the gays because don't like courts and pedos" no i am ageist the Supreme Court ruling that is so open to a number of interpretations that it is not even funny.

Before such ruling no gay person was denied any rights. The were subject to the same laws, requirements, and prohibitions just like heterosexuals. So what right are you specking of when you say I am denying because I oppose the supreme court ruling?

Marriage? which is not a right but a contract and under the law, (even now) the state have the right to stipulate who may enter into a contract. That is the law. So what 'right's are begin taken away or denied? How can it be a denying or hindering of a right if that is the law of the land that has been in place one the book since colonial times? Hell marriage was not even argued as a right by heterosexuals them self.

If that is the right that you are taking about in it being denied to you, I hate to break it to you but it still can be denied to you by the act of divorce or an annulment that is requested by your spouse or you and is granted by the court. Which show that marriage is not a right. Because [i]rights, under the law, can never be denied or abridged. And since I don't not see any rush to do way with divorce or annulment any time soon, it is safe to say that it is because marriage is still viewed by society and the law as a contract. And contract's can be denied, dissolve, altered, hindered, examined and a whole lot more.

[Iroscato]

And what proof do you have to make such a clam? How are you so certain that one thing will not lead to the other? Faith? Sorry but that I do not have for such an issue.

Because homosexuality requires the informed consent of both adult parties. Paedophilia by definition cannot, because one of the one of the parties is not capable of giving informed consent. That's it. End of story. It's not faith that leads me to that conclusion.

Because it is so impossible that it is not even possible?

Correct. Backwards fucked-up religious shitholes are the ones that give the OK to fuck kids, not civilised nations. They also execute gay people. Countries in the west do not. So as long as we do the precise opposite of what they do, we can't go wrong.

 . . . . Truly, can you sit back and say beyond confidences the 10 years ago you know with out a doubt that homosexuality would ever be at the level of acceptance it is now in today's society.

I was 11 ten years ago, but even then I could see the winds of change happening. So yes, quite easily I can say I saw it coming a mile off. I'm really surprised you couldn't.

Be   Truly Honest, with your self. Would you have every image homosexual acceptance and marriage today??

Read above.

Keep in mind that 10 years ago public oppenion polls were deeply against it, the majority of people did not accept it. It was view as a repulsive deviant act. It was illegal to engage in homosexual sex.  Can you honestly say the you know that this would be the outcome of homosexuality today in our society 10 years ago??

Read above the read above.


TL;DR - you're a delusional twit with absofuckinglutely nothing of value to add. So on the ignore list you go, ta-ta.