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Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
RE: Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
Is my question to confusing to understand?
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(August 15, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Ace Wrote: Ok, but it might be smarter if your not  looking in the mirror when you are typing

Thanks Ace, you made me chuckle. This reply is the same as the very childish and unimaginative retort, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.".
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RE: Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
(August 19, 2015 at 9:55 am)Cato Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Ace Wrote: Ok, but it might be smarter if your not  looking in the mirror when you are typing

Thanks Ace, you made me chuckle. This reply is the same as the very childish and unimaginative retort, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.".

Tongue Good to hear. Laughter is always a good thing to do.
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(August 11, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This bullshit about how religious shitwits get to say what they will and won't do because of their fucking superstitions has to end.

Do your fucking job or quit.

(August 12, 2015 at 3:07 am)Kitan Wrote: You are a fucking idiot.
http://patriotpost.us/posts/36931
The Ohio judge "must" perform the marriages.
Fuck you.

(August 12, 2015 at 3:10 am)robvalue Wrote: Fuck that stupid cunt of a judge.
You're "judging" skills are not required when performing marriages. If you can't do your damn job without whining like a bitch about your religious bigotry, then have the guts to quit.

Thinking
Hmm, do you mean like the President and  Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr, who “decided that his administration would no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act in court, . . . ”

Even his own “lawyers told Mr. Obama, he had a constitutional duty to comply until the Supreme Court ruled otherwise. Providing federal benefits to same-sex couples in defiance of the law . . .  theoretically. . . . risk articles of impeachment.”

Here is an artical also.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/us/pol....html?_r=0
Wink Shades
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(August 15, 2015 at 9:02 am)Iroscato Wrote: Could we all just agree to see how this turns out? If in 20 years the homosexuals haven't gayified everyone with their magic rainbow lasers, I'll expect to see an admittance that things are essentially the exact same as they were.

See you then. Until that time, I'm not gonna engage with either of you on the subject anymore, as it's clear you're both beyond help.

Indeed we can agree to this, if you are willing to do the following:
1. Allow Iran to have unrestricted nuclear weapons.
2. Leave ISIS alone.
3. Do not worry or bother anyone with global warming.

Let's do all of these things and wait 20 years to see what happens. Essentially things will be the same for humanity as a whole. So let's just agree to see how it turns out.

Otherwise, I expect to see admittance that we do not wait until the wheels fall off before we do something about things.
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(August 25, 2015 at 10:57 am)Anima Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 9:02 am)Iroscato Wrote: Could we all just agree to see how this turns out? If in 20 years the homosexuals haven't gayified everyone with their magic rainbow lasers, I'll expect to see an admittance that things are essentially the exact same as they were.

See you then. Until that time, I'm not gonna engage with either of you on the subject anymore, as it's clear you're both beyond help.

Indeed we can agree to this, if you are willing to do the following:
1.  Allow Iran to have unrestricted nuclear weapons.  
2.  Leave ISIS alone.
3.  Do not worry or bother anyone with global warming.

Let's do all of these things and wait 20 years to see what happens.  Essentially things will be the same for humanity as a whole.  So let's just agree to see how it turns out.

Otherwise, I expect to see admittance that we do not wait until the wheels fall off before we do something about things.

Marriage equality, the Iranian nuclear program, ISIS, and global warming.

That's some stunning reasoning, Anima. I'll bet you were the head of your special-ed class in forming and recognizing good analogies.
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The world would be a much better place if everybody had a joint and a good fuck.

But noooooooooo, that could be 'fun' -_-
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Seems that our society has weathered gaymaggedon thusfar.  Is this going to be another one of those "Soon™" sort of things?  Say another 2k years and civilization will crumble because Steve can marry Johnny? I'll keep watching the news for signs of the impending collapse......
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(August 25, 2015 at 11:12 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(August 25, 2015 at 10:57 am)Anima Wrote: Indeed we can agree to this, if you are willing to do the following:
1.  Allow Iran to have unrestricted nuclear weapons.  
2.  Leave ISIS alone.
3.  Do not worry or bother anyone with global warming.
Let's do all of these things and wait 20 years to see what happens.  Essentially things will be the same for humanity as a whole.  So let's just agree to see how it turns out.

Otherwise, I expect to see admittance that we do not wait until the wheels fall off before we do something about things.

Marriage equality, the Iranian nuclear program, ISIS, and global warming.

That's some stunning reasoning, Anima. I'll bet you were the head of your special-ed class in forming and recognizing good analogies.

You guys do know what an analogy is right? Or what about example's, parablels, comparing and contrasting is, right? You do know that many times when people talk they use them to convey an idea. Words in the analogy its self are not the actual focal point of the argument but, there use in aiding in expressing or presentation of the idea. You get that, Right? Or does a header infoingy you that an analogy is going to be used needed for you to realize that it is being used?

Just asking, because you guys seem to misread or take out of context of what Anima is actually saying. If you read it as it should be there is very little room for misinterpretation. Like I said just wondering because I see a lot on this board misconstruing what is being said, that all.
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(August 25, 2015 at 11:12 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(August 25, 2015 at 10:57 am)Anima Wrote: Indeed we can agree to this, if you are willing to do the following:
1.  Allow Iran to have unrestricted nuclear weapons.  
2.  Leave ISIS alone.
3.  Do not worry or bother anyone with global warming.

Let's do all of these things and wait 20 years to see what happens.  Essentially things will be the same for humanity as a whole.  So let's just agree to see how it turns out.

Otherwise, I expect to see admittance that we do not wait until the wheels fall off before we do something about things.

Marriage equality, the Iranian nuclear program, ISIS, and global warming.

That's some stunning reasoning, Anima. I'll bet you were the head of your special-ed class in forming and recognizing good analogies.

Stigmatizing special needs people now?  Wow!  Where is your empathy for those with special needs who are offended by your usage of their condition in a derogatory manner.  The same may be said for idiots and the stupid as well.  All such classes of person who deserve dignity and to not have their condition utilized in a derogatory manner just as those of same sex to not have someone referred to as gay in a derogatory way.

Indeed the argument is analogous.  The original post was stating we should and wait and see what will happen rather than jump to conclusions (an implicit argument of slippery slope).  To which I am saying the same logic is applicable in other situations as well.  

So rather than jumping to conclusions (and thus a slippery slope) let us wait and see what Iran will do with nuclear weapons, wait and see what ISIS will do in the middle east, and wait and see what global warming will do to the planet.  If things are essentially the same for the whole of humanity than each of these things were minor in the grand scheme and we were wise to leave them be.

We should not assume legalization of same sex marriage shall lead to Gaymaggedon any more than we should assume a nuclear Iran, ISIS, or global warming shall lead to Armageddon.  Otherwise we must say we take certain social and ethical actions to avoid potential harms before those harms manifest in actuality (and potentially become irreversible).  That is to say we are acting according to what many consider to be a slippery slope.

Thus it is reasonable for us to prohibit a nuclear Iran (they MAY attack Isreal), to prohibit ISIS (they MAY conquer the Middle East and begin attacking the west), and to try to stop global warming (that MAY cause biodiversity and environmental changes which will greatly harm our species), and same sex marraige (which MAY negatively impact our societies and populations).

So shall we act upon the MAY or not?  Or will I receive a hypocritical answer?
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