Stump the Christian?

[Randy Carson]

It is impossible to stump a christian, they are always willing to pull more bullshit out of their asses to justify their inane beliefs.

If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...

Britney-

That's not a terribly effective point. Christians would be respond by pointing out that the Jews did not see it that way.

Mary and Joseph were married at the time he was born, and numerous passages of scripture indicate that Jesus was received into the community, the synagogues and the Temple. The Pharisees even called him "Rabbi". But the law of Moses forbids the admission of bastards:

Deuteronomy 23: 2
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Jesus was accused of many things including blasphemy, but he was not accused of being a bastard.                                                                                                       

It's also possible that a knowledgeable Christian might turn this around on you by saying:

Let's suppose for a moment that this accusation is true. The fact that this embarrassing detail was included in the gospels makes them more believable because the authors told the truth. This is just one of many examples of how the gospels prove themselves to be historically reliable: they meet the criterion of embarrassment. 

So, doesn't this give you some reason to accept that what the gospels say might be true?

[Britney blue]

If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

No, I only reply to their comments with things like this if their being mean to me. Honestly I never expect to win them over.

[abaris]

No, I only reply to their comments with things like this if their being mean to me. Honestly I never expect to win them over.

Yeah, it's on the same lines as rightwingers calling you gay and thinking they've uttered the ultimate insult when in truth you don't give two shits. It's the equivalent of dropping ones pants in public to resort to insults.

[Britney blue]

You're right, it's that every once in a while I run into some really nasty trolls. I always keep in mind that I need to try to really really nice and use epistemology to get them to think. I do admit I need much refinement. Thank you for your replies.

But still, it only shows that you got no real arguments to present. And it misses the mark by a mile, since it doesn't even scratch their faith teflon armor.

I see where you're coming from; I would want to leave with them a lasting impression that would lead them to think about reason and logical arguments, hopefully, where as if I attack them even in defense of their replies they would remember this instead and this is not what I want. Thanx

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If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...

Britney-

That's not a terribly effective point. Christians would be respond by pointing out that the Jews did not see it that way.

Mary and Joseph were married at the time he was born, and numerous passages of scripture indicate that Jesus was received into the community, the synagogues and the Temple. The Pharisees even called him "Rabbi". But the law of Moses forbids the admission of bastards:

Deuteronomy 23: 2
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Jesus was accused of many things including blasphemy, but he was not accused of being a bastard.                                                                                                       

It's also possible that a knowledgeable Christian might turn this around on you by saying:

Let's suppose for a moment that this accusation is true. The fact that this embarrassing detail was included in the gospels makes them more believable because the authors told the truth. This is just one of many examples of how the gospels prove themselves to be historically reliable: they meet the criterion of embarrassment. 

So, doesn't this give you some reason to accept that what the gospels say might be true?

No, but after talking about this I come to realize that I should be nice or not respond.

[dyresand]

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

No, I only reply to their comments with things like this if their being mean to me. Honestly I never expect to win them over.

Already went over that some people are just a lost cause nothing is going to help them but themselves. All in all show them this pic.

[Minimalist]

Very disappointed.  At first glance I thought the OP was "Stomp the Christian."

[Wyrd of Gawd]

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard. 

But Joe wasn't the father!  Mary was a bigtime cheater!!

[Salacious B. Crumb]

There is no cornering christians. Their brains only know how to defend their religion, not think about it. The only way that it will work is if they are an honest, open-minded person, but that type of christian is difficult to come by.

[Minimalist]

Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard. 

But Joe wasn't the father!  Mary was a bigtime cheater!!

[Ravenshire]

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard.

Depend on how you define it:

bastard
noun

1. a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.

Source
(emphasis is mine)

While Mary may have been married, she was not married to gawd. The bastard children of royalty were frequently born to women who were married. They remained bastards.