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Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
#31
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
@Nope, in the series of observation, I am trying to point to a phenomenon, which is despite clear evidence pointing to a direction in Quran or Sunnah, people are avoiding the clear evidence while they are committed to following Quran and Sunnah. My hypothesis is that it's a supernatural influence on the heart that is causing this phenomenon.

If it was just one or two things, then that be perhaps coincidental. But when we see it to the degree that central emphasis of the message is ignored and gone against, a long with a whole series of important teachings...then something seems to be going on that cannot be explained simply by natural reasons.

There seems to me to be a dark influence on the hearts. However, I haven't put all the observational evidence yet that I am aware of.
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#32
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
Why can't your God get rid of this dark influence? Or does he not care about it?
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#33
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
(July 15, 2015 at 12:05 am)robvalue Wrote: Why can't your God get rid of this dark influence? Or does he not care about it?

This is a good question.  He as allowed dark influence on the hearts as a trial for humanity, that he can honor those who battle against it in the their souls, and also empower those who seek refuge in Him through his name, and by that raise their ranks.

He made a prayer a weapon against it, and way to defeat it.
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#34
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
That means god is deliberately causing all this confusion over religion, so he is responsible for the many wars fought about what the "true message" is. He watches even now as more blood is shed, and does nothing to clear the matter up. Testing us is more important to him than us living happy and peaceful lives together.

That is not a being I could respect, let alone worship.
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#35
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
Now there's a hex on our hearts -and- we can speak an incantation to summon juju of our own, Mystic?  What a magical world you must live in.
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#36
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
And only the magic powers of prayer can undo this evil.
Gotcha, anything else?
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#37
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
(July 15, 2015 at 12:14 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(July 15, 2015 at 12:05 am)robvalue Wrote: Why can't your God get rid of this dark influence? Or does he not care about it?

This is a good question.  He as allowed dark influence on the hearts as a trial for humanity, that he can honor those who battle against it in the their souls, and also empower those who seek refuge in Him through his name, and by that raise their ranks.

He made a prayer a weapon against it, and way to defeat it.

It would be easier just to be an atheist or agnostic then to try to make your religion line up with your own morals. Obviously, you are a decent enough person to understand why child marriage is evil so you have to believe that there is some 'dark forces' at work; instead of accepting that the holy books of Islam, just like those of Christianity, are confusing enough that evil people can distort them to support their actions.

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#38
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
(June 16, 2015 at 2:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The hypothesis is as follows:

There is a dark influence on the hearts that prevents people from reflecting enough to see the clearer and more logical recitation in many verses and well established hadiths.
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I think I see the problem you're having. You see, heart is merely a muscle, that's supposed to pump blood around your body and that's about it. For "reflecting" and "logic" it's best to use one's brain. Hope this helps.
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#39
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
I agree HN! I had a gut feeling you were right!
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#40
RE: Dark influence on the hearts and implanting locks regarding the Quran.
(June 16, 2015 at 3:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:


The word in Arabic here is further then mature or full of strength, but it means "at most strength", that it is reaching their prime age in strength.

Now whatever this age is it certainly is not a 6 or 9 year old. 

The hadiths however teach you can marry a child. 

The question is why do people assume you can marry a child when we have clear verses like this? This observation 1. Note: I am not making a conclusion just based on this observation. It's just one factor to consider.

There is nothing unclear about it being the age of marriage. However the Muslim scholars almost all believe you can marry a child!

This is observation 1. 
You do know that the hadiths were written centuries after Uthman's committee wrote the Koran.  The hadith writers simply made BS up like all religious writers do.  They got away with it because when someone said that they were full of camel crap they had the loudmouth beheaded.
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