Morality in animals

[QuarkDriven]

If a godless monkey can have morals... so can we...

There goes that argument.. unless, unless!! god speaks monkey

https://www.facebook.com/#!/GWAnimalPark...=1&theater

[Whateverist]

Everything we experience has its counterpart in any number of other animals. Why should altruism or what we call morality not be out there too? Of course, this use of symbolic language does seem to be unique to us .. but other animals communicate according to a patterning they understand. So again, we're not the be-all and end-all. We're just one of many viable mammalian designs.

Wait. Another area where we are exceptional is in the capacity to gloat over our superiority. Other animals celebrate their nature, but I doubt that any other engages in comparison the way we do.

[QuarkDriven]

we don't know.. that monkey could have been gloating and showboating about how he's a hero to all his monkey friends... lol pride is a sin ya'know..

[Whateverist]

Stupid monkey acting all human and stuff.

[ignoramus]

I know that monkey. Don't stress over his actions. He's Catholic. It's his duty. Shit scared of hell and all.

[robvalue]

I heard a wonderful story while at a monkey sanctuary. (A different one!) I believe it was a true story, it was presented as such.

One of the staff told us about enrichment that had been set up for two monkeys who were either side of a fence. There was enough room for them to pass things through the fence, but not to get to each other. They had placed a load of food in one of the enclosures, so that the monkey couldn't get it out. But they had placed the tool needed to get the food out in the other enclosure.

The monkey passed the tool through to the other one, so he could go get the food out. It worked, and he got access to the food. Then he took half of the food back, and passed it back through to the monkey who gave him the tool

[ignoramus]

I love hearing stories like that Rob... All animals are pure of heart! (except spiders and snakes! they are the work of the devil)
So what went wrong with us?

2 things that monkeys aren't exposed to: politics and religion. (absolute power corrupts absolutely)

[The Grand Nudger]

Sadly, even chimps form death squads.  Manic, cannibal death squads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

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The first outbreak of violence occurred on January 7, 1974,[4] when a party of six adult Kasakela males attacked and killed "Godi", a young Kahama male, who had been feeding in a tree.[1] This was the first time that any of the chimpanzees had been seen to deliberately kill a fellow chimp.[4]

Over the next four years, all six of the adult male members of the Kahama were killed by the Kasakela males.[5] Of the females from Kahama, one was killed, two went missing, and three were beaten and kidnapped by the Kasakela males.[5] The Kasakela then succeeded in taking over the Kahama's former territory.[5]

These territorial gains were not permanent, however; with the Kahama gone, the Kasakela's territory now butted up directly against the territory of another chimpanzee community, called the Kalande.[6] Cowed by the superior strength and numbers of the Kalande, as well as a few violent skirmishes along their border, the Kasakela quickly gave up much of their new territory.[6]

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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The story was from China.  For all we know, the monkey was bringing the pup home for Master's dinner.

Boru

addendum:  Just had a wee Google.  It's a hoax, kids.  http://www.hoax-slayer.com/monkey-pup.shtml

[Anomalocaris]

The story was from China.  For all we know, the monkey was bringing the pup home for Master's dinner.

Boru

Still shows compassion for the master.



After all, Christian notions of compassion often involves sucking up to the imaginary master in the sky at the expense of live fellow human beings in reality.