Why are we here?

[Godscreated]

The point is we get to live a life and decide what to do with it. God does know, we do not, If we do not get to live our life how can we be judged for it? If God put us in heaven or hell without us living life He makes the decision.

Would that be a bad thing?  If god had to choose your future with nothing to go on but his own desire, do you think he would assign you to hell?  If yes, he sounds terrifying.  If not, then we risk hell by being given the chance to screw up the perfect future.  If god is the greatest being in all of the universe, a kind and loving father of unequaled intellect and generosity, then I think I'd much rather he decide my fate before I get a chance to stumble into eternal torment.

No one has to stumble into eternal torment, God made an easy, simple way to walk away from that fate through His Son.  You want t work with an assumption that God wouldn't have anything to work with but His desire, God answers this question in the NT by saying He desires no one to enter eternal punishment. He doesn't want people to spend an eternity with Him if they chose not to, that would be a punishment in itself and would allow for corruption in heaven, so this is all taken care of through our choice. Besides life is far more than deciding where you will spend eternity. God's great generosity cost His Son much, all for us.

GC

[Godscreated]

Then live with no purpose, it's your life.

GC

There is no purpose in life.  One can pretend there is to make a delusional meaning out of it but, in the end, nothing matters.  We are no more than talking monkeys headed toward oblivion.

In another 100,000 years, assuming humans are still here (or even if they are not), nothing of any of this will matter.  It will not even be remembered.  We, as a species, will have effect on the ecology, but no more so than dinosaurs or glaciers, albeit different.

And if I am right (which I am), do you really want to take the chance of throwing away this "gift" on delusions of an afterlife?  Or do you think that you would be better served enjoying the one and only life that you will ever have?

(we are just probably 'brains-in-a-vat' anyway!)

I do enjoy life, God did not put me here to be a bored individual. You're making a claim that you know something and yet haven't brought evidence that it's true, please do so.

GC

[Pyrrho]

[IATIA]

You're making a claim that you know something and yet haven't brought evidence that it's true, please do so.

If there is no god, then what I say must be true. A god is illogical and impossible, then there is no god, therefore I am right.

[brewer]

When one is called one must give an answer, those who answer to the affirmative one is chosen.



This has nothing to do with heaven or hell, God was telling Jeremiah of the plan He wanted for his life, as long as he accepted.



Instead of just copying from a website that is biased to a certain point of view, you should have read the verses that followed verse 12 and you would have found Jesus was using them to help explain the parable to those who were with Him, even they did not understand the parable of the sower. He did not mean they wouldn't latter have a chance to be saved unless they continued with their eyes and ears closed to the truth.



To be holy and blameless before God can only happen by choosing Christ the Son, the choice is ours, as I said above we are chosen when we choose Christ. If you will take close notice to the bold wording, you will see it's through Christ which we choose according to John 3:16. Those that choose Christ are predestined to be accepted as holy and blameless before the Father.



You really seem to have trouble with see what the wording of scriptures say, you seem to fit the first verse you posted or you're just posting what others say without even reading the passages, both will have the same result. Again the bold shows what's happened or happening, people have to choose to love God. His purpose was always to give man the chance at redemption. He foreknew doesn't mean predestined. We who choose are predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. These whom He predestined are those predestined to be in the image of Christ after we choose Christ.




God's wisdom was predestined to be a mystery, that later will be revealed to those who choose Christ, no one is being predestined.



The destined occurrence was the death of Christ, Herod, Pilate and the others were known by God to harden their hearts against Christ, so He used them for His purpose.



This has nothing to do with predestined salvation and the days that were ordained to him were recorded because God knew when he would die before he was born.



This means only this, God knows those who will harden themselves against Him. His foreknowledge allows Him to use people for His purpose without endangering them to an eternal punishment.



Using only part of the story profits no one. As I said above God knew Pharaoh would harden his heart towards God, God hardened Pharaoh's heart o not let His people to go in order to show Egypt the power He has. Pharaoh was considered a living god by the Egyptians and God was going to show them that Pharaoh had no power to compete with God's.



These verses show we have choice in our salvation and it shows God chose the works beforehand that those who chose Christ would be doing.



This simply means that no one who refuses Christ will be appointed to eternal life. This is about foreknowledge of those who chose.

John 3:16 destroys all the notions of predestination.

Courtesy of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination



As I have shown the predestinationist haven't a foot to stand on, no verses support that belief and besides John 3:16 there are many verses that show we can only gain salvation through choosing Christ for who He is.

You say you have an opinion, then you make an absolute claim, that's trying to have your cake and it it too. 
 
The only crap I've seen here is you using the opinions of others as your own, you copied this stuff and did no research, again I'll refer you back to the first verse you posted, that shows you have chosen to be one of those that would rather be deaf and dumb.
 
As for why God created the world and the entire universe, if you had ever troubled yourself to learn by reading the Bible you would know God did it for His pleasure. And, He being the only One who could accomplish the creation why shouldn't He create what pleases Him.

GC

Quick, get the Thorazine out, I want to shut his head off!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Actually I was speaking to those who posted before me, you all have it made compared to the ones you've mentioned, I can understand them questioning. What I can't understand are those who question why stop short of using their lives to help others, to me this is a great purpose.

How can you possibly know who here helps or does not help others?
Boru

[Cyberman]

You're making a claim that you know something and yet haven't brought evidence that it's true, please do so.

[Ravenshire]

You are still believing in some petty human god.  You obviously have no concept whatever of the vastness of time, space and infinity.  To think that a god which could create all that would lower itself to your level of belief is just ridiculous.

Then live with no purpose, it's your life.

GC

The only purpose worth having in life is the purpose we give it.

[Tonus]

No one has to stumble into eternal torment, God made an easy, simple way to walk away from that fate through His Son.  You want t work with an assumption that God wouldn't have anything to work with but His desire, God answers this question in the NT by saying He desires no one to enter eternal punishment.

That's my point: if god wants everyone to be saved, then we're better off having him decide our fates. Otherwise we are at risk, regardless of how "easy" it is to be saved using his son's sacrifice. After all, how easy it is depends on who you ask, and many denominations have different rules regarding how we can be saved. Why risk it? Think about it: when it comes to making the best decision on anything, who would you trust: yourself, or god?

Or put another way: if god made that decision, everyone would be saved. But because he does not, billions of people will not be saved. Which is the better outcome?

[Chas]

Seems to me most of you couldn't careless about the great gift of life you've been given. To the OP, God doesn't decide who goes to heaven or hell, each individual does that and God grants them their choice.

GC

You are careless with your language, but it appears you couldn't care less.