Why do you think male homosexual have more mood and anxiety disorders?

[Metis]

Wonder if they'll respond or not. Their websites look ancient but I'm guessing this isn't exactly great PR for them. Or maybe it is, I don't know.

[Razzle]

I wouldn't suffer a sodomite in my house. If I see a limpwrist I'll beat it out of them.

Poofs need to man up, most sodomites would be fine had they actually had to do some real hard graft or played active sports as a child. It's a perversion of the natural roles that helps the problem to develop.

You see this, das_atheist? This is what I was talking about. Of all the minorities, only gay men and trans women (not so much lesbians because no one cares QUITE enough to become violent over it when little girls are tomboys, which is probably why lesbians do not have an increased rate of suicide, anxiety or depression over straight women) have to deal with this when growing up. Racial minorities get support, sympathy and a sense of community from their families and churches when they're discriminated against by outsiders. Gay people typically have no one to turn to when they're growing up and no escape, either at home, at church, at school, or anywhere.

[Nope]

I wouldn't suffer a sodomite in my house. If I see a limpwrist I'll beat it out of them.

Poofs need to man up, most sodomites would be fine had they actually had to do some real hard graft or played active sports as a child. It's a perversion of the natural roles that helps the problem to develop.

It doesn't matter if you are a poe or not, the fact that so far none of the forum Christians have spoken out against your insanity says a lot about their faith.

[PiousPaladin]

You see this, das_atheist? This is what I was talking about. Of all the minorities, only gay men and trans women (not so much lesbians because no one cares QUITE enough to become violent over it when little girls are tomboys, which is probably why lesbians do not have an increased rate of suicide, anxiety or depression over straight women) have to deal with this when growing up. Racial minorities get support, sympathy and a sense of community from their families and churches when they're discriminated against by outsiders. Gay people typically have no one to turn to when they're growing up and no escape, either at home, at church, at school, or anywhere.

I wouldn't suffer a lesbian either, don't think only males can be sodomites. Sodomy itself describes any union not naturally ordered towards procreation.

Tomboys often grow out of it, but effeminate boys usually do not unless a serious intervention takes place. It should be no surprise then the latter warrants more attention than the former.

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It doesn't matter if you are a poe or not, the fact that so far none of the forum Christians have spoken out against your insanity says a lot about their faith.

Why should they? I cannot stand the "Church of Nice" attitude that has been favored by many groups in the past sixty years. Sin is sin whatever we dress it up as, and it is about time we were blunt about what we think about it.

My comments on homosexuality and heresy have all been accurate and true to traditional teaching and the consequences described for them. I don't see a reason to pander when the truth is disobedience in these matters will lead one unto eternal damnation.

[Iroscato]

You see this, das_atheist? This is what I was talking about. Of all the minorities, only gay men and trans women (not so much lesbians because no one cares QUITE enough to become violent over it when little girls are tomboys, which is probably why lesbians do not have an increased rate of suicide, anxiety or depression over straight women) have to deal with this when growing up. Racial minorities get support, sympathy and a sense of community from their families and churches when they're discriminated against by outsiders. Gay people typically have no one to turn to when they're growing up and no escape, either at home, at church, at school, or anywhere.

I wouldn't suffer a lesbian either, don't think only males can be sodomites. Sodomy itself describes any union not naturally ordered towards procreation.

Tomboys often grow out of it, but effeminate boys usually do not unless a serious intervention takes place. It should be no surprise then the latter warrants more attention than the former.

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It doesn't matter if you are a poe or not, the fact that so far none of the forum Christians have spoken out against your insanity says a lot about their faith.

Why should they? I cannot stand the "Church of Nice" attitude that has been favored by many groups in the past sixty years. Sin is sin whatever we dress it up as, and it is about time we were blunt about what we think about it.

My comments on homosexuality and heresy have all been accurate. I don't see a reason to pander when the truth is disobedience in these matters will lead one unto eternal damnation.

You have lost. Your religion is going away, bit by bit, and there is NOTHING in the world you can do about it. You lose, thanks for playing. Bye-by now

[Longhorn]

Whenever I read PP's posts I can't help but imagine him getting a huge righteous hard on while typing

Like seriously, they just scream 'catholic boner'

[Razzle]

You see this, das_atheist? This is what I was talking about. Of all the minorities, only gay men and trans women (not so much lesbians because no one cares QUITE enough to become violent over it when little girls are tomboys, which is probably why lesbians do not have an increased rate of suicide, anxiety or depression over straight women) have to deal with this when growing up. Racial minorities get support, sympathy and a sense of community from their families and churches when they're discriminated against by outsiders. Gay people typically have no one to turn to when they're growing up and no escape, either at home, at church, at school, or anywhere.

I wouldn't suffer a lesbian either, don't think only males can be sodomites. Sodomy itself describes any union not naturally ordered towards procreation.

Tomboys often grow out of it, but effeminate boys usually do not unless a serious intervention takes place. It should be no surprise then the latter warrants more attention than the former.

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So you acknowledge that yes, gender atypical boys (of course not all of whom are gay, and not all gay men are gender atypical, but the correlation is strong) get much more abuse than gender atypical girls, from both adults and other children. Regardless of the underlying reason for that state of affairs (it's not what you claim, by the way, because there is no evidence that girls "grow out" of masculinity more often than boys "grow out of" femininity, or that boys need to be abused in order to grow out of it and girls don't), it is evidence that homophobia is the cause of gay men's worse mental health outcomes, and not their own conscience nagging at them that they're doing something wrong. If the cause were the latter, then gay women would have worse mental health outcomes as well, because they are also condemned by Christianity and some other religions. If conscience is the reason that gay men have bad mental health, how do you explain lesbians having on average the same, and by certain measures, better mental health than straight women?

Also, how do you explain the findings that by far and away, the worst mental health among gay men is experienced by those who report being the most feminine in childhood, and the best is reported by those who were the most masculine in childhood? Surely all should be equally plagued by religious guilt for their homosexuality, because they're all equally homosexual. Is this not pretty strong evidence that gay mental health is different because of how they're treated socially, and not because they feel they're doing something wrong? While many gay men and women do indeed fear that they're sinful, it doesn't seem to the be the cause of the mental health differences.

[PiousPaladin]

Lesbians do not have better mental health than straight women. They want to copulate with another woman, that is not a sign of a healthy mind. A woman is geared towards nurturing and procreation unless God grants her the vocation and calling to take the vows of a religious sister, she can not achieve either without taking a husband.

I am not homophobic, I do not fear gays. I mourn for the consequences for their souls upon death as well as the evils in the world we now must all suffer because of their blasphemy.

The fact they have so many other disorders is proof they were already mentally unstable to begin with.

[Razzle]

Lesbians do not have better mental health than straight women. They want to copulate with another woman, that is not a sign of a healthy mind. A woman is geared towards nurturing and procreation unless God grants her the vocation and calling to take the vows of a religious sister, she can not achieve either without taking a husband.

I am not homophobic, I do not fear gays. I mourn for the consequences for their souls upon death as well as the evils in the world we now must all suffer because of their blasphemy.

The fact they have so many other disorders is proof they were already mentally unstable to begin with.

Lesbians have suicide, anxiety and depression rates roughly equal to straight women. They have eating disorder rates significantly lower than straight women. By contrast, gay men have higher suicide, depression, anxiety, and eating disorder rates than straight men. The OP wanted to know why the trends for gay men are what they are, and it seems obvious to me that it's because gay men have higher rates of abuse in childhood and more pressure to be physically attractive in adulthood than either straight men or lesbians do. Do you acknowledge that your claim that the trends are actually caused by homosexual guilt, is inconsistent with the fact that lesbians do not have the same mental health trends as gay men, and masculine gay men don't have the same mental health trends as feminine gay men?

[Cyberman]

PP, you don't suffer anything from gay and lesbian "blasphemy" unless you happen to bite your tongue and poison yourself with your own vitriolic bile. So stick that persecution card up your arse. After your priest's finished with it of course.