Ask a Traditional Catholic

[Brian37]

Rather than respond to all the many threads that have appeared involving Catholicism, I have decided to follow an apparent trend here and set up my own thread.

I am a Traditional Catholic and member of the Society of Saint Pius X, a priestly fraternity dedicated to preserving the fullness of truth abandoned by the new heretical protestant Church based in Rome masquerading as the Catholic Faith.

The basics of our activities and history can be found here for anyone interested http://sspx.org/en/about/history

If anyone has any questions, I would be more than happy to answer them.

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Ok, here is a question for all of you. What makes any religious person think their religion or holy writings will be around forever? They were not around 200,000 years ago, or 4 billion years ago, much less 14 billion years ago. There have been 5 mass extinctions on this planet, and science says all life will eventually go extinct on our planet. 

How about you consider your belief was born out of human ignorance and that you merely buy into it because it makes you feel good?

[PiousPaladin]

Christianity has only grown in numbers since its founding, God also promised that the Gates of Hell would not prevail over his Church. The word of God is not to be doubted and his promise is true.

I am not a Catholic because it feels good. God calls us to be loyal not happy. Obedience to his will will lead to eternal salvation and joy in his presence, but in this life such base concerns as pleasure are irrelevant.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Ok, three questions for a traditional Catholic (full disclosure:  I was reared in the Church.  I was baptized and confirmed a Catholic, studied my catechism and won prizes for Scripture at Sunday school).

1.  Eucharist tastes awful, like a specially low grade of pasteboard.  Since it is going to transubstantiate into the flesh of Jesus anyway, why can't the Church make it taste better?

2.  I am male, I was confirmed and have not been excommunicated.  Therefore, I am eligible to be elected Pope (seriously, those are the only requirements).  Isn't there something deeply, seriously flawed with that?

3.  Do you miss the good old days where you could silence heretics by the simple expedient of lighting them on fire?

Thank you in advance for your answers, which I'm sure will bring me closer to God.

Boru

[PiousPaladin]

Ok, three questions for a traditional Catholic (full disclosure:  I was reared in the Church.  I was baptized and confirmed a Catholic, studied my catechism and won prizes for Scripture at Sunday school).

1.  Eucharist tastes awful, like a specially low grade of pasteboard.  Since it is going to transubstantiate into the flesh of Jesus anyway, why can't the Church make it taste better?

2.  I am male, I was confirmed and have not been excommunicated.  Therefore, I am eligible to be elected Pope (seriously, those are the only requirements).  Isn't there something deeply, seriously flawed with that?

3.  Do you miss the good old days where you could silence heretics by the simple expedient of lighting them on fire?

Thank you in advance for your answers, which I'm sure will bring me closer to God.

Boru

It saddens me to hear one so reared in the word, even the watered down Novus Ordo has left the faith. In any case

1. It is the the tradition to use unleavened wafers in the Church. Though the sacrament becomes for us the body and blood of Chirst the accidents of the bread and wine remain. Previous Popes have made clear their preference for use of communion wafers, and there seems little reason to change it. A few moments distaste of the flavor surely is meaningless compared to the wonder of the gift you obtain?

2. No you are not. An apostate cannot be the leader of the Catholic faithful and the College of Cardinals has not elected one outside their number for several centuries. While in the ancient past this was so the Church has resolved to only select candidates it knows well who have demonstrated several decades of exemplary service. You may not have been excommunicated by candle and crook, but you have excommunicated yourself by not fulfilling your Sunday obligation at least.

3. I take no pleasure in the thought of anyone being burnt, but I am not happy that the heretics are allowed to preach. They do need to be silenced and prevented from leading others further astray into the jaws of hell. It is a very grave matter, the sins of the modern age such as liberalism, feminism and relativity will lead you to hell.

[IATIA]

1. Is not unleavened a jewish tradition?
   
2. Though he will not be chosen, he is still eligible.
   
3. Is that cherry kool-aid you are drinking?
   

[Thumpalumpacus]

1. It was well rounded but that is irrelevant. God does not ask that we are sucessful, he asks that we are loyal and obedient. The only instruction that truely matters is that in Theology heightening our ability to appreciate his glory and bring us closer to him.

No, it isn't well-rounded. It's the CV of someone who has been programmed what to think.

2. No, not one ever. I'm sure you would have presented me with an example if this was not true. The SSPX are very through in assessing suitable candidates for the priesthood, it simply would never accept anyone with severe mental or moral disorders such as that.

SSPX Priest found guilty of rape and torture by the Society gets only two years in a convent.

Former SSPX molester here.

Clearly, your claim of "never" is incorrect; here's another one. That was a couple of minutes on Google. I have no doubt that if I decided to investigate your falsified claim in depth that I could find more.

3. We have told to uphold morality and stand for that which is good. Your buisness is our buisness, as your evil creates more suffering in the world. All the violence and all the natural disasters we suffer are the consequences of the sins of man.

Bald claims, bereft of support, cut no ice. I don't care about your silly superstitions; my point concerns the social realm, not the realm of fantasy.

4. I won't even try to speak for the Novus Ordo Church which suffers this, within our community such things simply are not objects for discussion or consideration.

Boy, that Scotsman is getting worn out, what with you trotting him out everey time someone points out that you are a Catholic too.

5. Your vulgarity is not amusing.

Oh, dear, you're not amused. Whatever shall I do?

[Randy Carson]

Do you STILL live in Portugal?

Wow! Brilliant comeback! I'm stunned!

There are some 10 million people living in Portugal. It has some of the best sights, architecture, weather, food and women in the world (highly subjective statistic).
In the world map, Portugal is smack the middle. Our time zone is gmt+0.
The language is rich and full of nuance. All the different sounds we have help us a lot when learning a new simpler language such as English.
Why would I not live in Portugal?

Brilliant comeback? I was just curious...sheesh.

[Randy Carson]

Christianity has only grown in numbers since its founding, God also promised that the Gates of Hell would not prevail over his Church. The word of God is not to be doubted and his promise is true.

I am not a Catholic because it feels good. God calls us to be loyal not happy. Obedience to his will will lead to eternal salvation and joy in his presence, but in this life such base concerns as pleasure are irrelevant.

If I may offer a slight correct: God calls us to be holy not happy.

Carry on.

[Homeless Nutter]

2. No, not one ever. I'm sure you would have presented me with an example if this was not true. The SSPX are very through in assessing suitable candidates for the priesthood, it simply would never accept anyone with severe mental or moral disorders such as that.

Uhm...
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/new...tten_1.htm

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San Francisco Faith
November, 2005

FATHER BENEDICT VAN DER PUTTEN, a priest formerly of the Society of St. Pius X, has been relieved of his faculties by Pope Benedict XVI, according to an announcement issued by the chancellor of the diocese of Marquette in August. Van der Putten, who, beginning in 1995, had been retreat master at the society's St. Aloysius Retreat House in Los Gatos, left the Society of St. Pius X in 2000 to seek reconciliation with Rome. In December 2003, the bishop of Scranton, Pennsylvania, where Van der Putten had gone to seek regularization, announced that he had refused incardination to Van der Putten "because of the seriousness of his admitted sexual misconduct." According to the diocese of Marquette, Van der Putten, "at one time a holder of a celebret from the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, has been dismissed from the clerical state by decree of His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI after being accused of sexual abuse of minors." Van der Putten reportedly is currently living in Hawaii.

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Also - there's this (although here victims were adult women, so I guess that doesn't count...):
http://rt.com/news/sex-priest-rape-excorsisms-736/

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A French fundamentalist priest raped and tortured three teachers at a private religious school he ran during so-called exorcisms, leaving one the victims so disturbed she couldn’t describe events to investigators.
Police say the priest raped three women in the autumn of 2010 after he met them at the private religious school Ecole Notre-Dame-de-la Sablonniere in Goussonville, west of Paris, which he was running at the time, according to French media reports.
For years the women did not come forward to the police and one of them was so traumatized that she couldn’t even describe what had happened to her. The 40-year old priest was charged on Wednesday on charges of cruelty, torture and rape. He is now being held without bail [...]

[...]The priest has already been tried several years ago in a religious hearing by his sect of St. Pius X, which sentenced him to two years in a monastery.

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EDIT: Well - looks like Parkers Tan got there already...

[Randy Carson]

Ok, three questions for a traditional Catholic (full disclosure:  I was reared in the Church.  I was baptized and confirmed a Catholic, studied my catechism and won prizes for Scripture at Sunday school).

1.  Eucharist tastes awful, like a specially low grade of pasteboard.  Since it is going to transubstantiate into the flesh of Jesus anyway, why can't the Church make it taste better?

The taste is a function of the ingredients which are simple and few. Why is there any need to improve the flavor of the host?

2.  I am male, I was confirmed and have not been excommunicated.  Therefore, I am eligible to be elected Pope (seriously, those are the only requirements).  Isn't there something deeply, seriously flawed with that?

You also need the backing of the Holy Spirit come conclave time.

3.  Do you miss the good old days where you could silence heretics by the simple expedient of lighting them on fire?

I don't, personally. But I can understand why others thought differently in times gone by.

Thank you in advance for your answers, which I'm sure will bring me closer to God.

Boru

If only it were that simple.