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Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
#11
RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
You need a fictional book to tell you to find common ground and mutual enjoyment when it comes to sex?
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#12
RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 7:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 5, 2015 at 7:16 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Thinking too far into it. You are to conduct yourselves as one entity with a common goal. Happiness.

Nailed it, then.  But my goal of making her happy has bugger all to do with any 'holy book'.   I strive to make her happy because it is an honour and a privilege to be allowed to try.

Boru
All teachings in ancient text will make you happy from doing them even if you didn't learn them from said texts. As is my case.
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#13
RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 7:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The problem though is that it says (4) The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.

Translation=  "Come on, honey.  'God' says you have to fuck me."

lol Sounds legit.
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RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 7:01 pm)IanHulett Wrote:
(July 5, 2015 at 6:52 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The verse speaks of the unity of marriage. Once married you are one. Are you undecided at times as an individual? Yes, and it isn't a good thing. It simply says that in marriage it is give and take, and for the sake of the marriage you shouldn't keep your partner from having sex with you unless you have a good reason, and doing so will lead your partner to look elsewhere.

It isn't used often in reference e because it can easily be misinterpreted.

The problem though is that it says (4) The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.

That to me sounds like I have no right to say no in a marriage, that if I'm not up to it, and my spouse asks for it, he/she wants it, therefore, it's a yes, even if I don't want it. It's clear. The wife DOES NOT have authority over HER OWN BODY, but yields it to the husband, and vice versa. How am I misunderstanding?

Because I apparently enjoy train wrecks, I used to read far right, Christian wives' blogs. Many of those blogs openly stated that wives should never say no to their husbands. Rarely do they state that the man be unable to say no. Among right wing and even some evangelicals, the man is the head of the family. He leads so the woman is supposed to obey. Oddly enough some women say that the bible verse about being a cheerful giver means that the wife should pretend to be happy about having the sex she didn't want to have in the first place. It is a very weird mindset

I own my own body. Period. End of discussion. Marriage doesn't give either me nor my husband rights to each others' bodies. He can say no just like I can say no. That is just one of the advantages of being an atheist.
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RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 7:25 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You need a fictional book to tell you to find common ground and mutual enjoyment when it comes to sex?

Hey, some aren't that bad. I mean parts of the Kama Sutra are worth a look...
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RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 7:13 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: 2. The 72-hour rule. We try to never go more than 72 hours without sex except by mutual consent as Paul suggested.

One other point: It isn't necessary to cook up a three-course meal when a quick snack is all that is necessary. If one spouse wants a quickie, let her have it. Or vice-versa.

Well, of course, if both of you don't agree to sex then it is rape.
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#17
RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
It's an about face from Jewish law which allowed the wife but not the husband to demand sex.   It's not unlimited and the Talmud specifies how much sex she can demand depending the husband's profession.  It even limits how long the husband may be away from home as that would restrict his wife's right to sex.

The only restriction on a Jewish wife refusing sex is that she may not do so for the purpose of punishing the husband.  In that case his only recourse is divorce.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/sex.htm

So either Paul got it wrong or Jesus changed the law.
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RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 7:45 pm)Metis Wrote:
(July 5, 2015 at 7:25 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You need a fictional book to tell you to find common ground and mutual enjoyment when it comes to sex?

Hey, some aren't that bad. I mean parts of the Kama Sutra are worth a look...

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RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
Quote:All teachings in ancient text will make you happy from doing them even if you didn't learn them from said texts. As is my case.

Selling Jewish virgins into slavery will make me happy?  Stoning adulterers will make me happy?  Smashing little kids in the street will make me happy?

You've got some fucked up ideas about 'happy'.

Boru
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#20
RE: Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?
(July 5, 2015 at 9:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:All teachings in ancient text will make you happy from doing them even if you didn't learn them from said texts. As is my case.

Selling Jewish virgins into slavery will make me happy?  Stoning adulterers will make me happy?  Smashing little kids in the street will make me happy?

You've got some fucked up ideas about 'happy'.

Boru

Can the virgins be male? I'll agree with him if that's a yes, and I'll have some cash ready as well Wink
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