Where is everybody when it comes to 1 Corinthians 7:3-5?

[Longhorn]

and two if you submit to sex whether or not you really want to, your submition means it is not rape.
How can I say this? It is by the definition of Rape and Spouce
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...glish/rape
(To force sex against another's will is the definition of Rape. If one submits then and both agree to have sex then it is not rape.)

Um. It is.

Forcing someone to submit, be it by psychological blackmail (in this case), physical abuse or otherwise is not consent.

A woman held at gunpoint agrees to have sex with the man holding the gun. She is being forced to. That's rape.

If a spouse doesn't want to have sex but is being told that it is a sin if they don't, that's blackmail and forcing them to have sex against their will. Rape.

[IanHulett]

what if... the bible didn't actually authorize rape, but instead tell MARRIED Couples that we should not just think of ourselves and only have sex when both are in desperate need of it. What if, the bible says that we should be mindful of our spouse' needs and provide them with sex even if we are not in desperate need of it?

I don't understand how you are using the word desperate in this context, Drich?


Ian

This verse was a huge problem back when I was a sex repulsed catholic, also when I thought I was asexual. I didn't want to have to consent to sexual encounters because it grossed me out. I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like if my girlfriend and I were in a catholic marriage and I had to submit to her while I was repulsed. To this day, I'm still repulsed by certain activities.

Drich

Then maybe you shouldn't get married. Because marriage is not about you. You seem to be more worried about you than providing for your spouse. What Paul is saying here is Sex is indeed apart of the provision/obligation married couples have to one another. If you can't provide for her then maybe it is best you do not marry someone you know going into a relationship you cant provide for. Because ultimately it will fail.

Some people are asexual and can be in happy,  in a committed relationship.  Of course, both individuals should go into the marriage aware that  they probably are going to have very little sex

I know aces can be in a happy committed relationship. I have an account on Aven, so it's become apparent to me. What I was trying to say was that for me personally, I was sex repulsed, and didn't want to consent to sex. Now, by going solo, I managed to rid myself of most of my repulsion. I still might be a gray ace though, or I might be a Demi-sexual. Both are branches of Asexuality.

[Ravenshire]

So, the teachings that I should kill my disrespectful, disobedient children will make me happy? No! Just, no!

Show he one case when the Lord made someone kill there child for not listening to them.

It's in the very law they were commanded to obey dumbass. Ever read that vile book?

"Anyone who attacks their father or mother is to be put to death." - Exodus 21:15

"Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." - Exodus 21:17

Of course you can spin those because attacking and cursing are not necessarily disobedience, but you can't spin this one and remain intellectually honest (bolding is mine):
"18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid." - Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Any other ways I can help prove you wrong?!?

[Ravenshire]

In some more extreme cases rubbing one out as opposed to love with your partner can cause a feeling of being unwanted by that partner and eventually cause real marital problems.

Just when I thought you couldn't be more pig ignorant...

If you're having so little sex that rubbing one out is becoming a marital concern, you have far worse problems than not getting off.

[Ravenshire]

We can show you one case where god makes somebody sacrifice their child just because.  But it's ok, cause god said "LOL/JK" at the last second.

It was a test of faith. He was a messenger meant to teach others. He had to have strong Faith. And he did, and his whole family was blessed.

You know all this. Why try?

Serious question here:
Why does an all knowing gawd need to test someone's faith?

[Pyrrho]

It was a test of faith. He was a messenger meant to teach others. He had to have strong Faith. And he did, and his whole family was blessed.

You know all this. Why try?

Serious question here:
Why does an all knowing gawd need to test someone's faith?

It is because the people telling you such stories are full of shit and cannot keep their stories straight.

[Ravenshire]

Yeah it's basically saying to obide by a truthful courtsystem. Plus the answer I already put.

The capacity of the faither to bend and twist words out of all recognition to justify the heinous orders of it's gawd never ceases to amaze.

[robvalue]

It should be part of the next Olympics!