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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 12:51 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Hmm another question, how do you know which parts of your scriptures are allegorical and which are literal?
If the genesis is allegorical, could the god mentioned within be allegorical too?
Why not? If seemingly random bits of it are just allegorical, god could just as well be allegorical, too. So maybe we can all be Christians while being atheists.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 10:10 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Why not? If seemingly random bits of it are just allegorical, god could just as well be allegorical, too. So maybe we can all be Christians while being atheists.
We'll be looking for you on Sunday.
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Any reference to needing to go to church within the entirety of christian theology is entirely allegorical, GC. What are you, a fundamentalist?
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 10:18 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 12:51 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Hmm another question, how do you know which parts of your scriptures are allegorical and which are literal?
If the genesis is allegorical, could the god mentioned within be allegorical too?
Why not? If seemingly random bits of it are just allegorical, god could just as well be allegorical, too. So maybe we can all be Christians while being atheists.
I certainly don't know - But "could" isn't a good answer - Honestly, this is one of the few times I feel comfortable telling people to go to a priest. Seriously, they probably know more than scripture than most of us do, since they've been studying it for years - I don't know what's allegorical or not, and I honestly don't care - But it is obvious that in literature some sentences and tales can only be interpreted as allegorical (For example, the sentence "he was tall as a mountain" can't be taken literally by anyone with a minimum of literary skills). I'm not really an expert to think my isolated opinion on an internet forum can truly determine which parts of the bible are literal or not - I'm sure the church has passed regulations and rules concerning that.
To be fair, if I ever went back to Christianity I would most certainly see the biblical tale of Genesis as allegorical because the whole story really sounds like one (creating the world in six days, creating a woman with a man's rib, the forbidden fruit, sounds strangely familiar and most likely some old lesson than exactly real events - This is what I would think if I was a Christian). I've never met a creationist in my life, so I may have a different view on this subject.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 11:15 pm
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(July 15, 2015 at 10:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: We'll be looking for you on Sunday.
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Any reference to needing to go to church within the entirety of christian theology is entirely allegorical, GC. What are you, a fundamentalist?
Yes, exactly. I see that you understand the One True Religion. I am sure that proper religious devotion on a Sunday morning involves something like sleeping in and then having coffee with breakfast, possibly reading a newspaper, possibly listening to Bach's Brandenburg Concertos. Or having sex, or starting the day with a screwdriver. You know, truly sacred and holy things, that are pleasing unto the Lord.
Going to church seems like a blasphemous interpretation of holy scripture, excusable only if there is a special musical presentation that is particularly good. And then one ought not make too much of a habit of it, as it sets a bad example to one's neighbors. And if one does do such a thing, one should never do anything so vulgar as to give them money for it. It only encourages the blasphemous practice of having church services, when they should be participating in holy sacraments like those mentioned previously.
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