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Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 12:19 pm
You've probably heard it all before..."oh, you atheists are just dying for an argument, you're only interested in bigging yourselves up, blah blah blah..."
Ok I admit sometimes I can't help it but that's only because theists are so determined to ignore simple truths. They only see what they want to see, it kinda sums them up.
But in the spirit of fairness, who do we think is ultimately more deliberately argumentative? (I vote they are).
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 12:39 pm
I think we have better arguments.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm
I don't believe one group is more or less argumentative than the other. Both sides think the evidence stacks up in their favour, or they make it a war of logical fallacies and semantics. Don't be fooled, atheists do the same thing.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 1:38 pm
I think atheists are more argumentative.
But thats only because they have more to argue against.
Theists have lots of law dogma and religious texts we can get our teeth into, we just dont believe in god.
They can attack evolution and science as much as they like but it is not needed to believe in evolution or other aspects of science to be an atheist just the ability to say 'no' to the question 'do you believe in god?'.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I think we atheistic types are quicker to be argumentative, because we constantly encounter the claims of religion and can't help disagreeing. Theists are usually (in my experience) more likely to dismiss the arguments than to join them.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I actively argue with theists every chance I get. It's my nature.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 21, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Theists argue for the existence of an intelligent creator of the universe, I can't speak for everyone but it seems the majority of Atheists are merely responding to that claim and counter-arguing for the apparent lack of evidence for any cosmic creator. It's a popular red herring to say we're contradicting them out of spitefulness, but in reality we're simply informing them of the unjustifiable claim after claim made by exposing the flaws or weaknesses in their argument - we're trying to explain to them they've failed on a basic level to understand what's required for an existence claim.
Eventually someday we can only hope for the sake of progress Theists will finally get a clue and realise its their privilege to believe whatever they want in their private time, but they have no right to push their unsubstantiated faith-based systems into our public lives and enforcing divisive religious beliefs onto government or state-owned institutions like the Court of law, business establishments, health care or our education systems. Evidence-free concepts such as god, angels and spirits have no place or belonging in children's science classes or within the workplace.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 22, 2010 at 3:33 am
'Us' Do you mean we on this forum? Not that I've noticed,although the atheist here seem to be more rational for the most part.
If you mean 'as atheists' it's a meaningless question to me.
"As atheist' I assert "I do not believe in god(s)".I have no opinion on any other subject. As I make no claims, I have no burden of proof. Nor do have any obligation or need to argue my position with anyone.
BUT, I'm also a pedantic skeptic and will argue about just about anything. AND I'm also an intolerant old fuck who refuses to suffer fools.Overall, that means I have been known to say some very harsh things to apologists I consider especially deserving due to bloody minded,willull ignorance.
To answer your question: Yes,I guess I'm probably more argumentative than a lot of people, but that has nothing to do with my atheism.
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RE: Are theists more argumentative than us?
April 22, 2010 at 3:38 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2010 at 3:39 am by KichigaiNeko.)
I am of the persuasion that "atheists" are probaly more "argumentative" because they question everything.
And what they don't understand, they will research for evidence.
IF... that evidence is lacking.....watch out! One argument coming to a conversation near you.
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