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Apologetics open challenge
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Indeed morality is founded upon empathy. And empathy evolved.
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 8:10 pm
(October 1, 2015 at 8:09 pm)EvidenceVersusFaith Wrote: Indeed morality is founded upon empathy. And empathy evolved.

It's not the only thing it's founded upon though, although, I would say it's the most important and the most emphasized one of God's Names in Quran (Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem (The compassionate, the Merciful).
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#153
RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 8:11 pm
God doesn't enter into it though does he?
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#154
RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 8:12 pm
Couldn't.  Doesn't exist.
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 8:13 pm
(October 1, 2015 at 8:11 pm)EvidenceVersusFaith Wrote: God doesn't enter into it though does he?
 If you believe there is some extra special about love compassion empathy and friendship, I think you would see a divine basis, a spiritual reality behind this, and it's not simply a program and experience created through chemicals in our brains.
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#156
RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm
(October 1, 2015 at 8:04 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If you say relative morality is arbitrary, then this how I understand it to be defined, but it would mean there is no true good action given any judgement or motive, it's simply made up in our heads through evolutionary feelings. 

Honor, praise, greatness, goodness, all this would just be in our heads, with no real truth to them.

So? Do you have any evidence that these are not 'just in our heads' ?
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 9:40 pm
(October 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: So?  Do you have any evidence that these are not 'just in our heads' ?
What do you mean by evidence? Depending on your definition, I may or may not have some. I definitely on a clear proof that these have reality and truth and can remind people of what they experience of these clear proofs and knowledge.
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#158
RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 9:59 pm
(October 1, 2015 at 9:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: So?  Do you have any evidence that these are not 'just in our heads' ?
What do you mean by evidence? Depending on your definition, I may or may not have some. I definitely on a clear proof that these have reality and truth and can remind people of what they experience of these clear proofs and knowledge.

Well of course they experience it. But what makes you think any of these things have an existence outside of someone's head?
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 10:08 pm
MysticKnight Wrote:If you believe there is some extra special about love compassion empathy and friendship, I think you would see a divine basis, a spiritual reality behind this, and it's not simply a program and experience created through chemicals in our brains.


The ostensible lack of profundity of the origin of something that is ostensibly profound itself, does in no way mean it cannot be the origin of that seemingly more meaningful result.

That would be the genetic fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy
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RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 1, 2015 at 10:12 pm
(October 1, 2015 at 9:59 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(October 1, 2015 at 9:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: What do you mean by evidence? Depending on your definition, I may or may not have some. I definitely on a clear proof that these have reality and truth and can remind people of what they experience of these clear proofs and knowledge.

Well of course they experience it.  But what makes you think any of these things have an existence outside of someone's head?

The very experience of it.
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