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'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
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'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33436021

Quote:Radiocarbon dating found the manuscript to be at least 1,370 years old, making it among the earliest in existence.

The pages of the Muslim holy text had remained unrecognised in the university library for almost a century.
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When a PhD researcher, Alba Fedeli, looked more closely at these pages it was decided to carry out a radiocarbon dating test and the results were "startling".
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The tests, carried out by the Oxford University Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit, showed that the fragments, written on sheep or goat skin, were among the very oldest surviving texts of the Koran.

These tests provide a range of dates, showing that, with a probability of more than 95%, the parchment was from between 568 and 645.
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"According to Muslim tradition, the Prophet Muhammad received the revelations that form the Koran, the scripture of Islam, between the years 610 and 632, the year of his death."

So, now we have two pages with text very similar to that found in a modern quran, dated to when it was claimed that Mo lived or very shortly after.

I wonder why none of the reports I looked at about this mention which exact parts of the quran that are present in these old pages...?
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
Ooohh, something about Muslims in Birmingham. What a surprise.
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
(July 22, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Ooohh, something about Muslims in Birmingham. What a surprise.

Yeah... I found it odd that such an extraordinary piece of "paper" would be found in the UK...
But... is there some relation between muslims and Birmingham in particular?
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
(July 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: But... is there some relation between muslims and Birmingham in particular?

Birmingham is basically a Muslim state. I should know, I live there.
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
(July 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(July 22, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Ooohh, something about Muslims in Birmingham. What a surprise.

Yeah... I found it odd that such an extraordinary piece of "paper" would be found in the UK...

Not that odd when you consider that the British empire ransacked and plundered the entire world.
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
(July 22, 2015 at 12:15 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: But... is there some relation between muslims and Birmingham in particular?

Birmingham is basically a Muslim state. I should know, I live there.

Like for real or is that a metaphor?
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
(July 22, 2015 at 12:19 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:
(July 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Yeah... I found it odd that such an extraordinary piece of "paper" would be found in the UK...

Not that odd when you consider that the British empire ransacked and plundered the entire world.

But Napoleon took the biggest phal... I mean, obelisk to Paris.
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
(July 22, 2015 at 12:15 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: But... is there some relation between muslims and Birmingham in particular?

Birmingham is basically a Muslim state. I should know, I live there.

I see.... so this "fragment" may be a forgery?
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
Try and use the scientific method to evidence how the world is actually much older than their holy books say it is and you'll get a barrage of how dating techniques are flawed. Use it to evidence something they believe in however and it's as though all their Eid's have come early.

Incidentally this is also my University where I got my MA. ^_^
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RE: 'Oldest' Koran fragments found in Birmingham University
LOL, if the fragments mention Lamenites we'll know for sure it's FAKE.
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